Land bridges / arches [Solved]

ARC_Commander · Post by **ARC_Commander** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:48 pm

I'm making a Cato Neimoidia map with the bridge cities and etc. I've made a sort of canyon, but I'm puzzled as to how to make the arches over it:

Could anyone help me on this?

Caleb1117 · Post by **Caleb1117** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:51 pm

I do not think its possable to make an arch (or cave) out of the terrain in ZE, the only way you can do it is with an object.

ARC_Commander · Post by **ARC_Commander** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:56 pm

Ah, I see. I'll try that.

Caleb1117 · Post by **Caleb1117** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:15 pm

Well good luck, a Neimoidia map like that would be awsome!

trainmaster611 · Post by **trainmaster611** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:39 pm

I know in the BF1 assets there is an arch in the tat1 world that might fit this map but its gonna be kinda small for you

You would have to model a new one

Caleb1117 · Post by **Caleb1117** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:49 pm

Wait no you wouldnt! thats it! use Eddie's\Squipple's scale option! let me explain

1 Find the object trainmaster is talking about.
2 in the odf file add this line under [GameObjectClass]

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GeometryScale = 2.0

3 next find the msh file for the object lets pretend its called Tat_bldg_arch1.msh, now make a new text document named Tat_bldg_arch1.msh.option, make sure the file extention is option instead of txt. then open it with note pad and add this line

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-scale 2.0

4 done!

Basicly the GeometryScale = 2.0, and the -scale 2.0, is you telling the game to make the object 2 times bigger. so if you said
GeometryScale = 6.0 it would be 6 times bigger.
Or,
GeometryScale = 0.10 the object would be a tenth of the original size.

But remeber the number that you put into the odf must match what the number in the .msh.option is.

ARC_Commander · Post by **ARC_Commander** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:32 pm

Thanks guys!

BTW Trainmaster, could you get the name of that arch for me? 3D Object Converter's giving me flak, and only views 1 in 3 objects.

Caleb1117 · Post by **Caleb1117** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:47 pm

well theres several arches, like...
tat1_bldg_arch_tri.msh
tat1_bldg_arch2.msh

also there canyon walls may be usefull
tat1_canyonwall_01.msh
tat1_canyonwall_02.msh
tat1_canyonwall_03.msh

RC-1290 · Post by **RC-1290** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:53 pm

no, they really don't look like they belong at cato neimoidia.

Caleb1117 · Post by **Caleb1117** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:56 pm

Yea, but you can reskin them.

ARC_Commander · Post by **ARC_Commander** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:06 pm

Thanks Caleb. I'm gonna reskin them, of course.

A little more about this - I need to rotate the arch. This may sound really nooby, but... HOW THE HECK DO I DO THAT? :evil:

Post by **AceMastermind** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:34 pm

Scaling an object up to the size that you need will most likely produce odd side effects(disappearing mesh ingame), if you'd like, i could scale it up for you properly in XSI, just give me the odf names of the objects and how large you want them.

RC-1290 · Post by **RC-1290** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:35 pm

Z and X (only different when in multi select)

ARC_Commander · Post by **ARC_Commander** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:42 pm

Err... I'm pretty new when it comes to ZeroEditor. I'm better with skins. So please tell me, where would I find Z and X?

Post by **AceMastermind** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:49 pm

ARC_Commander wrote:So please tell me, where would I find Z and X?

On your keyboard.
Example
Hold down the "z" key and hold middle click on your mouse then move the mouse to rotate.

Caleb1117 · Post by **Caleb1117** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:04 pm

Yea "x" key moves objects up, down, and the 4 cardnal directions, "z" is for rotateing and changeing angles

ARC_Commander · Post by **ARC_Commander** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:36 pm

Ahhh... thank you.

I feel dumb.

trainmaster611 · Post by **trainmaster611** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:07 am

Yeah I just pushed random buttons until it worked

Caleb1117 wrote:Wait no you wouldnt! thats it! use Eddie's\Squipple's scale option! let me explain

1 Find the object trainmaster is talking about.
2 in the odf file add this line under [GameObjectClass]
Code: Select all
GeometryScale = 2.0
3 next find the msh file for the object lets pretend its called Tat_bldg_arch1.msh, now make a new text document named Tat_bldg_arch1.msh.option, make sure the file extention is option instead of txt. then open it with note pad and add this line
Code: Select all
-scale 2.0
4 done!

Basicly the GeometryScale = 2.0, and the -scale 2.0, is you telling the game to make the object 2 times bigger. so if you said
GeometryScale = 6.0 it would be 6 times bigger.
Or,
GeometryScale = 0.10 the object would be a tenth of the original size.

But remeber the number that you put into the odf must match what the number in the .msh.option is.

Wow thats amazing!!!

I didn't think that actually worked! Does it mess up the quality of the object?

Oh and the name of the object is

tat1_bldg_arch_tri.msh

Post by **Penguin** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:29 am

GeometryScale = <FLOAT> is for ZE
-scale <FLOAT> is for ingame, they can be different, they don't need to be the same.

Scaling up messes up the objects LOD and collision so you only use -scale <FLOAT> to shrink something.

Caleb1117 · Post by **Caleb1117** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:43 am

So, the collision geometry of the object remains constant? I Don't know alot about the proses I basicly figured it out on my own, based on a few comments made by squipple. I only used it cause one of the squeddies objects was huge ingame, a painting.

As per Penguin's statement about "they can be different, they don't need to be the same." I didn't know that, however it would be sorta pointless to have it show a diffrent size in ZE, from whats ingame.

Land bridges / arches [Solved]

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Offer to scale up arch model

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