Some guy from the IGN forums wrote:Listen to me now people, I'm only going to say this once. And by once I mean probably over and over, because most of you are too dense to get it the first time. We all know that putting someone like Cloud in the game would be OMG and all the fanboys would go insane and the game would sell billions. But at the same time its desecrating the fact that this is supposed to be a Nintendo game, even further than Snake has already.

Now Snake has an excuse, Kojima has the inside connection and of course the begging and the fact that he's friends with Sakurai and all that. Snake IS an unconventional character for Smash and I still feel he shouldn't be there, but given the circumstances at hand he becomes an exception to the rule, he gets in through some special way, because of Kojima's plees. As much as I disagree with the final decision, the explanation for why he's there is at least understandable. He's not just there to rake in Sony fans, but more as the director's favor for a friend. The popularity he'll attract is only icing on the cake.

This choice however, causes the chain reaction. People don't read the articles past the word "Snake", they just stop right there and freak. At this time hundreds of ideas start flowing through they're heads "NINTENDO ADDAGE TEH THRD PRTY CACTOR!1!! TAHT MENS ZONIC AN MEGAMN AN ZERO AN MASTER CHEF AND NIGHTMARE AND RYU AN CLOUD AN SEPHY AN VINCENT AN TIFA AN SORA AN RIKU AND" and the demand just rises through the roof. Snake's presence in the game makes all the ignorant n00bs and casual gamers think that, just because Snake's there, anything goes now. They think all the doors are open, lets rename the game Super 3rd Party Bros. vs Capcom. But IN REALITY, all it was was a little idea the delevopers decided to do for fun. It didn't mean anything super important or "ALL ABOARD TEH SMASH TRAIN!!1!", but it got blown out of proportion because nobody reads between the lines and looks at the FACTS.

Now because of this, Nintendo HAS to add more 3rd Party characters to feed the demand, or there will be massive disapointments. But if they just up and add every demand of every drooling, clawing fanboy and throw in whatever characters they have no experience/connection with like Sephiroth and Dante and Sam Fisher, Nintendo is degrading themselves by completely going against what they're game is supposed to be about(get this: NINTENDO) and only doing it to try and please everyone so they make a lots and lots of money. Do you guys know what this process is called in the gaming industry?

FRANCHISE WHORING

Only this time its with other franchises. This is a Nintendo game, about Nintendo characters, what do Cloud, Riku, and Kratos have to do with Nintendo's legacy? You just want them to go against they're own style, go against the things that made the series great in the first place and turn their flagship game into a multi-franchise brothel just so you can play as your favorite character? I think theres a lot more opinion involved in any of this than there is fact and reasoning.

But the damage has already been done. As I said, Snake's presence has triggered the reaction, now if Nintendo doesn't add any 3rd parties, a large majority of the fanbase will be pissed as hell(to those of you who DON'T want anyone else from a 3rd partys added, thats good for you, but keep in mind that you are in the minority). Therefore we find the dilemma of how to add popular 3rd party characters yet still keep the game about Nintendo, and not just turn it into a universal fighting championship where everyone from everywhere throws in their guy for the hell of it.

I believe Nintendo can achieve this feat by adding only the popular 3rd Party characters who have had a good presence or relationships with Nintendo in the past, those who could almost be considered "honorary Nintendo characters" by fans and developers alike. Characters like Sonic, Mario's proclaimed rival, theres not a gamer alive who hasn't imagined a fight between the two. Or the ORIGINAL Megaman(not X) who helped carry the popularity of both the NES and the SNES. They both played they're own role in Nintendo's history and helped Nintendo become what it is today, and both would make good 3rd party candidates. They're popular and they have relevance to Nintendo.

Now before you start throwing around ideas, keep in mind that JUST BECAUSE A CHARACTER HAS APPEARED ON A NINTENDO CONSOLE IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY RELEVANT TO NINTENDO.

Yeah, Sora, Cloud, and Riku appeared on the GBA in KH: Chain of Memories, did that game do a whole lot for Big N? NO. So thats not relevance. Soul Calibur II had Link in it, but did the other characters in that game like Nightmare do a lot for Nintendo? NO. The only character in SCII who holds any real relevance is Link, and HE'S the reason why the game was so popular on GC, not Nightmare, so why should he get to be in the game? Resident Evil 4 was one of the most popular games for GC, but does that mean Leon Kennedy can pass as a character recognized as a N-goer by many Nintendo fans, new and old? NO. The game may have been really good, but the RE series does not have any heavy Nintendo appeal aside from a few exclusives, not like a better Capcom representative such as Megaman would have. Plus the game is also on PS2 now, and its technically BETTER. These are just a few examples.

But that still leaves Snake. "He's a 3rd party, but he doesn't have much more Nintendo relevance than someone like Cloud does, WTF Dillo?" I know that Snake himself obviously has little to do with Nintendo aside from the fact that his first games were on the NES(which as I stated above, does NOT make him completely Nintendo-relevant), but once again, he got in because of Kojima. Now I don't see the likes of Tetsuya Nomaru up at Nintendo HQ pleeding with Sakurai to include his buddies Cloud and Sephiroth in the game(despite the fact that they actually lack even more relevance to Nintendo than Snake does). Why is it so many people are certain that, since Snake is in the game, so many more other 3rd parties characters with minimal connections to Nintendo should be as well? Why should they get in? Their creators didn't BEG.

Furtherwise, something you should all know: Big name characters COST MONEY. Lots of money. Snake got in easy because of Kojima, the licensing fees were probably very minimal because it was his idea. However other huge name, popular characters from companies who have little-to-no connections to Nintendo won't be giving up they're big name characters without a huge price tag chained to they're asses. I guaruntee you Master Chief, Kratos, James Bond and others like that are completely out of the question for this reason(among many other reasons). Although Nintendo and Square have been close before, I can almost guaruntee you that Cloud, they're flagship spikey haired wonder boy, will NOT come cheap, neither will Sexiroth. However, Square still did play a heavy role in Nintendo's development and they are still very close companies, I can see Square letting one of they're really-popular-but-not-a-cash-cow-like-buster-sword-boy characters in for minimal fees, which is why I suggest Crono from Chrono Trigger. He may not be as huge as Cloud, be he's more than famous, and he's highly relevant to Nintendo to boot, representing the unmatched greatness that were SNES RPGs and quite possibly being the pinnacle of RPG gaming on any Nintendo system, and arguably ever. If I were Nintendo, that legacy is something I'd want to flaunt more, rather than completely ignoring(Where the crap is our SMRPG DS?)


So ends my rant. I'm gonna just start copying and pasting this whenever something like this comes up. I think it covers everything.

The Feed wrote:UPDATE: It turns out this story is completely wrong and the article is fake. So to the four Sonic fans left on the planet, TheFeed apologizes.

EGG_GUTS wrote:So they're adding cloud and the other dude (who are they anyways?) to the game? I'm still POed about them adding Marth and Roy to Melee. I never heard of them before.

Delta_57_Dash wrote:good...

I was about to clobber you or use my Gauss Rifle to shred you.