Hello GT! I have another problem. As the title states, I can't quite get Darth D.U.C.K's duel pistol animations to work right.

I followed THIS tutorial to the 'T', Minus the red steps, and munged the new animations. I got all three of the animation files successfully into my sides MUNGED folder.

Here is my soldier odf:
And here is my gun odf:
And all I get is my Terminator walking around with the normal Magnagaurd animations, and a gun attached to it's left arm, that doesn't shoot.

If anyone who has gotten the animations to work, or knows how to get them to work would like to help, I would be very grateful! Thanks.

You are referencing the magnaguard skeleton/animations after your custom animation in the ODF which results in your unit using the magnaguard skeleton/animations. You can't have both like that. What I'd do is mix the magnguard premunged animation files with that of the dual pistols and munge a whole new animation set. The only problem is whether the stock magnaguard skeleton supports D.U.C.K.'s dual pistols.

AQT wrote:You are referencing the magnaguard skeleton/animations after your custom animation in the ODF which results in your unit using the magnaguard skeleton/animations. You can't have both like that. What I'd do is mix the magnguard premunged animation files with that of the dual pistols and munge a whole new animation set. The only problem is whether the stock magnaguard skeleton supports D.U.C.K.'s dual pistols.

I removed the magnegaurd skeleton entirely, and I still got the same results, just he was using the human skeleton. I think I made a mistake in munging the animations. Since I will retry it, how do you combine animations like you said?

Go to assets\SoldierAnimationBank\magnaguard and copy the three MSH files to the folder where you munged the dual pistol animations. Make sure you use the magnaguard's basepose. Rename the other two files so that the magnaguard part is jango, reflecting the name of your animation folder.

EDIT: Actually all you need really is the magnaguard's basepose, the other two aren't necessary.

AQT wrote:Go to assets\SoldierAnimationBank\magnaguard and copy the three MSH files to the folder where you munged the dual pistol animations. Make sure you use the magnaguard's basepose. Rename the other two files so that the magnaguard part is jango, reflecting the name of your animation folder.

EDIT: Actually all you need really is the magnaguard's basepose, the other two aren't necessary.

Darn it... I did that, and added the Magnegaurd skeleton back in the odf, and I got back where I started: The Terminator walking around with a purse that looks like a gun.

In the gun odf, could the 'Class label = "cannon"' be a problem?

The weapon ODF is independent of how your animation looks. Now why would you reference the magnaguard skeleton in your ODF again? You should put the following lines instead: You don't need to have the AnimationName line anymore since, if you did what I suggested, your jango animation set now uses the magnaguard skeleton along with the dual pistol animations.

the weaponodf is not independent from what the anims look ingame because the animationbank in it will determinate which animations are used for it ingame. so if the doublepistolanims are called jango_pistols_whatever you have to give your weapon the animbank pistols or the anims wont be used

DarthD.U.C.K. wrote:the weaponodf is not independent from what the anims look ingame because the animationbank in it will determinate which animations are used for it ingame. so if the doublepistolanims are called jango_pistols_whatever you have to give your weapon the animbank pistols or the anims wont be used

Ah ha! This seemed to be the problem.

I did what AQT said, and it stayed the same. (However, that was very helpful.)

And then I checked the animation .mshes in the animations folder, and the word pistol was plural.

So, I changed the gun odf to pistols, and it crashed upon spawning with the error: It's getting closer! I can almost taste it! Thanks for all the help you've given me so far. You guys rock. :greeny:

The bank is singular.

kinetosimpetus wrote:The bank is singular.

The regular one is, yes. But the one I'm using is plural. Whatever is in the animation .msh file name is what the bank is called. So if my animation is epic_pistols_stand, or whatever, I have to use the bank name pistols.

I think my problem is it can't find the animations in the animation folder.

Here is where I munged them:

C:\BF2_ModTools\data_TER\Animations\SoldierAnimationBank\jango

Inside jango is where all the munge.bat and animation .mshs are. Is that the right place?

Try renaming "pistols" to "pistol" in the MSH files.

General_Nate wrote:Inside jango is where all the munge.bat and animation .mshs are. Is that the right place?

That is correct.

So if my animation is epic_pistols_stand...

Is it? If it is, that is most likely the cause of your problem here.

AQT wrote:Try renaming "pistols" to "pistol" in the MSH files.

General_Nate wrote:Inside jango is where all the munge.bat and animation .mshs are. Is that the right place?

That is correct.

So if my animation is epic_pistols_stand...

Is it? If it is, that is most likely the cause of your problem here.

Alright! Thanks! I tried the renaming to pistol in the animation name, and I got this: So close!!! I think the game isn't recognizing the addon to be a gun.

Here is my odf: The addon gun doesn't shoot, ether. How do I get the game to recognize it to be a gun, and for it to actually shoot?

And, the epic_pistols_stand thing was an example.

General_Nate wrote:I think the game isn't recognizing the addon to be a gun.

Yeah, you need a version of the gun that is set up properly as an addon so that it appears correctly in the left hand of a unit.

The addon gun doesn't shoot, ether. How do I get the game to recognize it to be a gun, and for it to actually shoot?

There's a dual pistol ODF around the forum somewhere that makes it look like it's shooting from two separate guns. You can take a look at that for reference I suppose.

General_Nate wrote:
The addon gun doesn't shoot, ether. How do I get the game to recognize it to be a gun, and for it to actually shoot?

You can't, you can only make an illusion of shooting from both guns using shot patterns to spread the shots to the sides.

Are you using his new doubleweapon skeleton with the second hp_weapons instead of bone_l_hand? if not, the addon model must be editted.

Yeah, you need a version of the gun that is set up properly as an addon so that it appears correctly in the left hand of a unit.

Hm. I experimented with moving and rotating addons a while ago, and I think that would work, as long as it doesn't need Hard points.

There's a dual pistol ODF around the forum somewhere that makes it look like it's shooting from two separate guns. You can take a look at that for reference I suppose.

Ok, I'll do a search, and see what I find. Thanks!

You can't, you can only make an illusion of shooting from both guns using shot patterns to spread the shots to the sides.

That's what I meant.

Are you using his new doubleweapon skeleton with the second hp_weapons instead of bone_l_hand? if not, the addon model must be editted.

I have no idea. I'm using:

jango_pistol_stand_idle_emote_full.msh
jango_pistol_stand_reload_full.msh
jango_pistol_stand_shoot_full.msh
And the basepose .msh of the Magnagaurd.

If it does have to be edited with hard points/bones, I guess I'm done here...

Well according to DarthD.U.C.K. you can't use the "doubleweapon" skeleton with units who use their own custom skeleton, in this case the magnaguard. You'll just have to use an addon for the left gun then unless you want your Terminator to be bulk down. Besides, the chaingun you're using is asymmetrica,l so if you use the "doubleweapon" skeleton the right and left guns would end up being mirror images of each other.

Since I can't use the double weapon animation with the Magnagaurd, I think I'll stick with what I have.

I experimented with the Chaingun.msh in Milkshape, and ran through a trial and error session, and I got the chaingun facing the right direction, and in the right spot. Now, I just need to have a muzzle flash on the new gun. In another of my modding topics, they said that you can off set the fire point in the unit odf. How do you have them both fire at the same time? Do I need a second aimer like the droideka? If so, I think I should set the fire point of the second aimer to the one in the right hand, and then offset it. Am I right?