How can I enable prone position?

1z2x3c · Post by **1z2x3c** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:09 am

you know how it goes... stand .. crouch... prone.... well in bf2 there is only stand and crouch.. is there any way to enable prone?..... i se its set up in the scripst folder in global.. but you cant go prone.. i want to know how to set it to go prone.... or set make it to allow you to go prone... even in the hint nodes... they have settings for prone

Fingerfood · Post by **Fingerfood** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:25 am

It's impossible. Tean' made an animation for it, but nothing more.

1z2x3c · Post by **1z2x3c** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:14 am

darn... i realy wanted to aply it... maby lucas arts know s how... but not like we ever talk to them... u know

theultimat · Post by **theultimat** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:30 am

I'm not very experienced at woking with animations, but couldn't you just paste the lines of the prone anims file madde by Tean into the unit you want to go prone's anims file?

1z2x3c · Post by **1z2x3c** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:35 am

never done anims... maby we shold pm tean to ask him to try it... i could work... i guess... we could also replace crouch w/ prone... if you wnat that instead.. i guess

MercuryNoodles · Post by **MercuryNoodles** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:43 am

If I remember correctly, Tean's anim is only the prone stance itself, and doesn't include the movement animations. The end result is you pop back into the crouch position whenever you move. Pandemic took out much of the prone stuff, except the odf codes related to it and maybe a few other minor things.

Btw, I wouldn't recommend bothering him about making animations for prone, since he's probably busy with the Conversion Pack.

1z2x3c · Post by **1z2x3c** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:47 am

oh yay better not.... teans busy

MandeRek · Post by **MandeRek** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:31 am

Jedi use a combo file, which says what animation to play, how, and what button need to be pressed and how..

For them you could make prone i think. Add indeed new crawling anims, and prone_idle_emote, then you'll need prone_pistol_blabla and prone_rifle blabla.. If you're not skilled with XSI, then this is REALLY not what you want to go through, unless you master it and are able to do this in a day..

I say; get it out of your mind..

1z2x3c · Post by **1z2x3c** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:35 am

HA...A DAY... WHO COULD DO THAT
... i cant...

theultimat · Post by **theultimat** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:37 am

AH HA! Couldn't you copy the prone anims from the BF1 modtools assets! Would that work?

MandeRek · Post by **MandeRek** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:10 am

theultimat wrote:AH HA! Couldn't you copy the prone anims from the BF1 modtools assets! Would that work?

That might be a really good idea! You can try, and rename all prone parts in crouch..

This would mean a soldier prones when you press crouch.. I think a soldier-unit has no combo file, so you couldn't 'add' it, only replace..

(VETERAN MODDERS: does a normal unit has a combo file? or is it hardcoded?)

1z2x3c · Post by **1z2x3c** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:13 am

i think its a combo file .... but i am known to be wrong... alot.... most the time.... so... yay..

Aman/Pinguin · Post by **Aman/Pinguin** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:14 am

Me and a friend got the prone anims working once. Full, with move animations and so on.
I don't remember everything, but actually we just replaced the SWBF2 crouch animations with the SWBF1 prone animations.
And you should set some movespeeds a bit slower...looks wierd if you move fast to the left while proning (correct spelling?)

A few problems though, which are AFAIK hardcoded:

When you prone, your shoots will still come out from the default point
If you zoom (as sniper) in prone animation, you will look through the view of the stand animation - very unfair if you hide behind something like a crate, because you can see and shoot other players, but they can't see you
You can't crouch anymore
Some other, but I'm not sure what it was

YouJediJunkie · Post by **YouJediJunkie** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:33 am

Aman/Pinguin wrote:Me and a friend got the prone anims working once. Full, with move animations and so on.
I don't remember everything, but actually we just replaced the SWBF2 crouch animations with the SWBF1 prone animations.
And you should set some movespeeds a bit slower...looks wierd if you move fast to the left while proning (correct spelling?)

A few problems though, which are AFAIK hardcoded:

When you prone, your shoots will still come out from the default point

If you zoom (as sniper) in prone animation, you will look through the view of the stand animation - very unfair if you hide behind something like a crate, because you can see and shoot other players, but they can't see you

You can't crouch anymore

Some other, but I'm not sure what it was

Hehe, exactly as I thought. Me and a guy were doing a map ages ago and we wanted to have the prone animation, and our idea was to replace it with the crounch one. We never tested it, but we were 99% sure on the matter. Nice to have it confirmed. :atatpilot:

theultimat · Post by **theultimat** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:50 am

Ok, so I've renamed everything how it should be. Now...how do I munge it? Oh, and I copied over human_0 from the assest and pasted it into my animation folder; that's where I did the renaming. So. How do I muge it? I ran the munge.bat file - only to get one file called human_0.ZAF, which is useless, right?

Aman/Pinguin · Post by **Aman/Pinguin** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:52 am

Your new files should be located here:

BF2_ModTools\assets\common\MUNGED

theultimat · Post by **theultimat** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:00 am

Your new files should be located here:

BF2_ModTools\assets\common\MUNGED

That folder doesn't exist.

Aman/Pinguin · Post by **Aman/Pinguin** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:21 pm

Open the munge.bat and look what path it munged to.

1z2x3c · Post by **1z2x3c** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:49 pm

ultima... create the munged file and put them in there

theultimat · Post by **theultimat** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:17 pm

Aman/Pinguin wrote:Open the munge.bat and look what path it munged to.

This is all that's in the file munge.bat:

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@call ..\munge_animation.bat "/keepframe0 /dest human_0.zaf /comp_debug 0 /debug" Common

Munge_Animation.bat:

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@REM called from $\Animations\type\subfolder\
@REM   all params are passed to zenasset
@REM   if there are more than 9 parameters to pass, you can enclose all params in double quotes
@setlocal

@set MUNGE_ROOT_DIR=..\..\..
@if "%MUNGE_BIN_DIR%"=="" (
	@set MUNGE_BIN_DIR=%CD%\%MUNGE_ROOT_DIR%\..\ToolsFL\Bin
	@set PATH=%CD%\%MUNGE_ROOT_DIR%\..\ToolsFL\Bin;%PATH%
)

zenasset /multimsh /writefiles %~1 > ZenAsset.log

@mkdir %MUNGE_ROOT_DIR%\%2\MUNGED
binmunge -inputfile *.zaa -chunkid zaa_ -ext zaabin -outputdir %MUNGE_ROOT_DIR%\%2\MUNGED\
binmunge -inputfile *.zaf -chunkid zaf_ -ext zafbin -outputdir %MUNGE_ROOT_DIR%\%2\MUNGED\
del *.zaa
del *.zaf
move *.anims %MUNGE_ROOT_DIR%\%2\MUNGED\
@endlocal

Which file do I edit, and what do I edit?

YAY! I've solved that bit, but now how do I tell which unit to use those animations?

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