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TK432 · Post by **TK432** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:36 pm

looks nice, how about some grass and bushes?

General_Nate · Post by **General_Nate** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:45 pm

I don't know how to add grass, but there are bushes.

TK432 · Post by **TK432** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:03 pm

simply paint around with your foliage tool where you want your grass and then make (or copy one from another world) a ???.PRP file in your world folder and edit like this

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Layer(0)  =the layer in ZE

{

    SpreadFactor(0.1);

    Mesh()

    {

        GrassPatch("fel1_prop_grass_tall2.odf", 50); =the odf or msh file of your grass you wanna use

        File("editor_grasspatch.msh", 50);

        Frequency(100);

        Scale(1);

        Stiffness(0.0);

    }

}

General_Nate · Post by **General_Nate** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:07 pm

Thanks, I'll give it a go.

Post by **AQT** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:36 pm

General_Nate wrote:
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I suggest giving the Terminators the Magnaguard skeleton because right now it looks a bit weird using the human skeleton in my opinion.

Redline · Post by **Redline** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:40 pm

nice work really nice idea , but dude go and work at enviroment. it looks like a little comic

General_Nate · Post by **General_Nate** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:41 pm

@Redline, Thanks, I will.

@AQT, No, it has the droid skeleton. My Screen taking software makes everything look weird. Seriously, whenever you move the camera, every unit twitches and looks like a pile spaghetti. I'll probably get a new software, and upload some more Terminator pics.

Gen.Kenobi · Post by **Gen.Kenobi** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:52 pm

General_Nate wrote: @AQT, No, it has the droid skeleton. My Screen taking software makes everything look weird. Seriously, whenever you move the camera, every unit twitches and looks like a pile spaghetti. I'll probably get a new software, and upload some more Terminator pics.

Why not use the good old Print Screen Button? Them go to paint and Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V...

Post by **AQT** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:11 pm

General_Nate wrote:@AQT, No, it has the droid skeleton. My Screen taking software makes everything look weird. Seriously, whenever you move the camera, every unit twitches and looks like a pile spaghetti. I'll probably get a new software, and upload some more Terminator pics.

Are you sure about that? It looks like the human skeleton to me. And by droid, do you mean Magnaguard? From your perspective, does it look like the following in-game?

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See how the arms aren't so close to each other and the difference in the hips?

Gen.Kenobi wrote:Them go to paint and Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V...

Why do that if can just go to the GameData\Screenshots folder and get your screenshots there in .tga format? That way you won't have to exit the game every time you take a screenshot just to paste it in Paint.

Post by **Maveritchell** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:16 pm

P.S. You should still strip the glow flag from the MG's mesh to remove that diamond in the center.

General_Nate · Post by **General_Nate** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:39 pm

Ok, here is the same Terminator.

I took this via Print Screen button.

And there is the old one.

One thing, the old one has the Terminator holding it wrong. (However, that does look nice.)

Post by **AQT** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:44 pm

That is the human skeleton for sure.

Maveritchell wrote:P.S. You should still strip the glow flag from the MG's mesh to remove that diamond in the center.

Would hex editing work?

General_Nate · Post by **General_Nate** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:44 pm

Ok, I'll post my ODFs...

Here is one:

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[GameObjectClass]

ClassParent     	= "cis_inf_default"

GeometryName            = "cis_inf_magnaguard.msh"

[Properties]

GeometryName            = "cis_inf_magnaguard"

GeometryLowRes          = "cis_inf_magnaguard"

PointsToUnlock      =15

MaxHealth   = 550

AddHealth   = 10

UnitType            	= "support"

WEAPONSECTION = 1

WeaponName     	= "ter_inf_chaingun"

WeaponAmmo     	= 0

VOUnitType      	= 093

// the foot height where footstep sounds are played

MinFootHeight = 0.3

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_hostile      SpottedVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_bacta      NeedMedicVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_mechanic      NeedRepairVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_ammo      NeedAmmoVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_transport      NeedPickupVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_backup      NeedBackupVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_clear_area      AttackPositionVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_defend     DefendPositionVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_hostile_inVehicle      SpottedVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_bacta_inVehicle      NeedMedicVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_mechanic_inVehicle      NeedRepairVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_ammo_inVehicle      NeedAmmoVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_transport_inVehicle      NeedPickupVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_backup_inVehicle      NeedBackupVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_clear_area_inVehicle      AttackPositionVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_defend_inVehicle     DefendPositionVO +InVehicle"

And here is the parent:

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[GameObjectClass]

// Base class for all CIS soldiers, inherits from com_inf_default

ClassParent                 = "com_inf_default"

GeometryName                = "cis_inf_bdroid.msh"

[Properties]

HealthType                  = "droid"

// most droids have funky posture, easiest to put it here

CollisionHeadOffset = "0.0 -0.11 0.05"

ChunkFrequency              = 0.6

CHUNKSECTION                = "CHUNK1"

ChunkGeometryName           = "bdroid_chunk1"

ChunkNodeName               = "bone_neck"

ChunkTerrainCollisions      = "4"

ChunkTerrainEffect          = "dirtspray"

ChunkTrailEffect            = "com_sfx_chunksmolder"

ChunkPhysics                = "FULL"

ChunkOmega                  = "4.0 4.0 4.0"

ChunkSpeed                  = 8.0

CHUNKSECTION                = "CHUNK2"

ChunkGeometryName           = "bdroid_chunk2"

ChunkNodeName               = "bone_l_upperarm"

ChunkTerrainCollisions      = "4"

ChunkTerrainEffect          = "dirtspray"

ChunkTrailEffect            = "com_sfx_chunksmolder"

ChunkPhysics                = "FULL"

ChunkOmega                  = "4.0 4.0 4.0"

ChunkSpeed                  = 8.0

CHUNKSECTION                = "CHUNK3"

ChunkGeometryName           = "bdroid_chunk3"

ChunkNodeName               = "bone_l_calf"

ChunkTerrainCollisions      = "4"

ChunkTerrainEffect          = "dirtspray"

ChunkTrailEffect            = "com_sfx_chunksmolder"

ChunkPhysics                = "FULL"

ChunkOmega                  = "4.0 4.0 4.0"

ChunkSpeed                  = 8.0

CHUNKSECTION                = "CHUNK4"

ChunkGeometryName           = "bdroid_chunk4"

ChunkNodeName               = "bone_r_thigh"

ChunkTerrainCollisions      = "4"

ChunkTerrainEffect          = "dirtspray"

ChunkTrailEffect            = "com_sfx_chunksmolder"

ChunkPhysics                = "FULL"

ChunkOmega                  = "4.0 4.0 4.0"

ChunkSpeed                  = 8.0

CHUNKSECTION                = "CHUNK5"

ChunkGeometryName           = "bdroid_chunk5"

ChunkNodeName               = "bone_a_spine"

ChunkTerrainCollisions      = "4"

ChunkTerrainEffect          = "dirtspray"

ChunkTrailEffect            = "com_sfx_chunksmolder"

ChunkPhysics                = "FULL"

ChunkOmega                  = "4.0 4.0 4.0"

ChunkSpeed                  = 8.0

HurtSound                   = ""

DeathSound                  = ""

DamageRegionSound           = ""

ShockFadeOutTime            = ""

ShockFadeInTime             = ""

ShockFadeOutGain            = ""

ShockSound                  = ""

ClothingRustleSound         = ""

LowHealthSound              = ""

//LowHealthThreshold        = ".25"

FoleyFXClass                = "cis_inf_droid"

[Note: The chuncks will be changed.]

Any hints?

Post by **Maveritchell** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:52 pm

AQT wrote:That is the human skeleton for sure.
Maveritchell wrote:P.S. You should still strip the glow flag from the MG's mesh to remove that diamond in the center.
Would hex editing work?

Yes.

Post by **AQT** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:03 pm

Thanks, Mav.

@General_Nate: Go to the CIS\munged folder in the assets and copy over the following files into your side's munged folder: magnaguard.anims, magnaguard.zaabin, magnaguard.zafbin, and magnaguardlz.zafbin

Replace your old ODF with this one:

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[code][GameObjectClass]

ClassParent 		= "cis_inf_default"

GeometryName 		= "cis_inf_magnaguard.msh"

[Properties]

GeometryName            = "cis_inf_magnaguard"

GeometryLowRes          = "cis_inf_magnaguard_low1"

SkeletonName            = "magnaguard"

SkeletonLowRes          = "magnaguardlz"

SkeletonRootScale   	= "1.24"

CollisionHeadOffset 	= "0.0 0.0 0.0"

FirstPerson             = "CIS\cisoff;cis_1st_magnaguard"

MinFootHeight 		= 0.3

UnitType 		= "support"

PointsToUnlock 		= 15

MaxHealth 		= 550

AddHealth 		= 10

WEAPONSECTION 		= 1

WeaponName 		= "ter_inf_chaingun"

WeaponAmmo 		= 0

CAMERASECTION           = "STAND"

EyePointOffset          = "0.0 1.8 0.0"

TrackCenter             = "0.0 1.8 0.0

TrackOffset             = "0.0 0.0 4"

TiltValue               = "10.0"

CAMERASECTION           = "STANDZOOM"

EyePointOffset          = "0.0 1.8 0.0"

TrackCenter             = "0.0 1.8 0.0

TrackOffset             = "0.4 0.05 2.8"

TiltValue               = "3.5"

CAMERASECTION           = "CROUCH"

EyePointOffset          = "0.0 1.3 0.0"

TrackCenter             = "0.0 1.3 0.0

TrackOffset             = "0.0 0.15 3.5"

TiltValue               = "10.0"

CameraBlendTime         = "0.75"

CAMERASECTION           = "CROUCHZOOM"

EyePointOffset          = "0.0 1.3 0.0"

TrackCenter             = "0.0 1.3 0.0

TrackOffset             = "0.4 0.2 2.8"

TiltValue               = "3.5"

CAMERASECTION           = "SPRINT"

EyePointOffset          = "0.0 1.8 0.0"

TrackCenter             = "0.0 1.8 0.0

TrackOffset             = "0.0 0.0 5.0"

TiltValue               = "10.0"

CameraBlendTime         = "0.75"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_hostile SpottedVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_bacta NeedMedicVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_mechanic NeedRepairVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_ammo NeedAmmoVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_transport NeedPickupVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_backup NeedBackupVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_clear_area AttackPositionVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_defend DefendPositionVO"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_hostile_inVehicle SpottedVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_bacta_inVehicle NeedMedicVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_mechanic_inVehicle NeedRepairVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_ammo_inVehicle NeedAmmoVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_transport_inVehicle NeedPickupVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_backup_inVehicle NeedBackupVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_clear_area_inVehicle AttackPositionVO +InVehicle"

VOSound = "cis1_inf_pc_com_defend_inVehicle DefendPositionVO +InVehicle"[/code]

Then go to the CIS\msh folder in the assets and copy over the following files into your side's msh folder: cis_inf_magnaguard_low1.msh and cis_inf_magnaguard_low1.msh.option.

One last suggestion: don't make the Terminators blow up into chunks when they are killed. If anything, the humans should be blowing up into chunks.

General_Nate · Post by **General_Nate** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:21 pm

AQT, I have said it once, and I will say it again. You rock!!

Here is the Terminator how it should look:

Thank you so much!

DarthSlim · Post by **DarthSlim** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:21 am

Wow, that looks awesome!! I think it looks better with a rifle than with a chaingun, but I assume there will be different units with different weapons.

RevanSithLord · Post by **RevanSithLord** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:25 am

I think it looks better with a chaingun, but we all have our preferences. It looks better with the mounted under-arm chaingun, though, imo.

Good work, though, General Nate!

icemember · Post by **icemember** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:50 am

Hi, I found some salvation reference pics. Hope they help lol.

Terminator 600

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This terminator holds a mini gun on his right hand, Hold a grenade launcher on his Left hand. And a ammo cache backpack on his back. :atatpilot:

Par3210 · Post by **Par3210** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:47 am

maybe we could make some greenish, broken, dusty robe for the terminator to make him look more realistic. The pic has the robes, so it's just a suggestion if you want to go to the trouble to do it.

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