The Force Unleashed Reverse Lightsaber?

Testakleez · Post by **Testakleez** » Fri May 02, 2008 9:51 pm

hey, i am trying to make a reverse lightsaber a la force unleashed for my map. right now i am using darth maul's lightsaber with the front disabled, but of course i want to make a more authentic one. I once saw a reverse lightsaber in a map that i downloaded, jedi order 66 coruscant , but the blade came out of the front emitter and went through the hilt. How would I do that? how do i make it come out the back?

Post by **AceMastermind** » Fri May 02, 2008 10:05 pm

You can use this one if you want, I reversed it in XSI so it looks normal.
reversed_saber_hilt.zip

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Testakleez · Post by **Testakleez** » Fri May 02, 2008 10:49 pm

Sweet Babies! thanks a lot! oh and do you know the limit on how many animations you can give to a char? because i am trying to make a combo system and i need several animations. and can you define multiple explosions for the lightsaber, so each explosion can have a different effect and can be used independently of each other?

MetalcoreRancor · Post by **MetalcoreRancor** » Sat May 03, 2008 9:27 am

I would think 10 is in reason, and 12+ is over doing it.

And you can't have different explosions, just the same explosion used in different attacks.

inferno · Post by **inferno** » Sat May 03, 2008 10:15 am

You can change the lightsabre odf from LightSabreLength "1.0"
to LightSabreLength "-1.0" like this example

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[WeaponClass]

ClassLabel          = "melee"
ClassParent			= "com_weap_inf_lightsaber"

[Properties]

GeometryName        = "all_weap_inf_lightsabre"
ComboAnimationBank	= "human_sabre melee all_hero_luke_jedi"

FirePointName       = "hp_fire"
LightSaberLength	= "1.0"
LightSaberWidth		= "0.08"
LightSaberTexture 	= "bluelightsabre"
LightSaberTrailColor = "7 85 255 128"

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[WeaponClass]

ClassLabel          = "melee"
ClassParent			= "com_weap_inf_lightsaber"

[Properties]

GeometryName        = "all_weap_inf_lightsabre"
ComboAnimationBank	= "human_sabre melee all_hero_luke_jedi"

FirePointName       = "hp_fire"
LightSaberLength	= "-1.0"
LightSaberWidth		= "0.08"
LightSaberTexture 	= "bluelightsabre"
LightSaberTrailColor = "7 85 255 128"

The_Emperor · Post by **The_Emperor** » Sat May 03, 2008 10:21 am

inferno wrote:You can change the lightsabre odf from LightSabreLength "1.0"
to LightSabreLength "-1.0" like this example

True, but

Testakleez wrote:the blade came out of the front emitter and went through the hilt.

You can do what you said, but the firepoint is still at the same place so you'll have a glowing saber which looks bad. Ace reversed it entirely, including the firepoint, so the hilt won't glow.

MandeRek · Post by **MandeRek** » Sat May 03, 2008 11:28 am

MetalcoreRancor wrote:I would think 10 is in reason, and 12+ is over doing it.

And you can't have different explosions, just the same explosion used in different attacks.

I guess the combo says it uses a _exp.odf for an attack, so in Mace's combo it says basicly:

'Use the explosion(_exp.odf) mentioned in his weapon odf for the jumpattack'

What if we add a _exp2.odf which is a different file, also to the odf, same line just different name, and say in the combo:

'Use the second explosion (_exp2.odf) mentioned in his weapon odf for the third attack (attack1c)'

Wouldn't that be possible?

Testakleez · Post by **Testakleez** » Sat May 03, 2008 12:24 pm

thanks a lot for the help guys, and special thanks to ace! hmmm.. Manderek do i put the name of the odf in the combo like this?

PlayExplosion(_exp2);

or do i have to make make it like this

PlayExplosion(***_***_nameofchar_explosion2);
with asterisks subbed with the other required letters.

Also two more questions..
can you make an effect that just distorts the background? like the effect when you force sprint?
and is it even possible to make a force grab? like force choke but play the falling to your death anim, and be able to move the grabbed character around? or is that beyond the limits of the engine?

Post by **Maveritchell** » Sat May 03, 2008 1:31 pm

Testakleez wrote:Also two more questions..
can you make an effect that just distorts the background? like the effect when you force sprint?
and is it even possible to make a force grab? like force choke but play the falling to your death anim, and be able to move the grabbed character around? or is that beyond the limits of the engine?

Particle effects can only add things to your screen, they can't distort the actual image. Your best bet would be a wave-type effect, a good one to look at might be the actual stock force push explosion effect (it's unused, but it's there and a lot of modmaps have used it).

And no, you can't maneuver a character with force choke. The animation is easy enough, change:

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SoldierAnimation    = "choking"

to

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SoldierAnimation    = "tool_fall"

in the choke .odf.

"Areaeffectweapons" (like force choke) are really interesting but they've got a strange setup and seem to be really limited. There's not a whole lot you can do with them besides maybe 1 or 2 different kinds of weapons.

SBF_Dann_Boeing · Post by **SBF_Dann_Boeing** » Sat May 03, 2008 1:37 pm

You can only have one explosion effect but you can have it happen multiple times within the combo. The effect itself is marked out in the lightsaber odf, not the combo.

Testakleez · Post by **Testakleez** » Sat May 03, 2008 1:59 pm

oh i see.. well i meant having an effect that when things in the background are filtered through it, its looks like its distorted, added just like any other effect file. what is the name of the force push explosion effect? hmmm..
I have an idea, can you make a force power with two ordinances with one delayed, so that the first will make it act like force choke like normal and the second comes after, say, 2 seconds and makes him go flying? is it possible to attach something to the flying trooper to make him able to damage and knock down anyone he flies into?

SBF_Dann_Boeing · Post by **SBF_Dann_Boeing** » Sat May 03, 2008 2:04 pm

You cannot combine force choke with anything unfortunately. But you can combine lightning with push (and pull). And by flying into other troopers, do you mean literally bumping into? I'm almost sure it's impossible to do that. Explosions can only be triggered by firing a weapon (or saber combo), or by a unit or object's destruction.

Testakleez · Post by **Testakleez** » Sat May 03, 2008 2:26 pm

ok i see thanks anyway... i tried the falling animation thing, but they just started floating and raising their hands, completely still, how do i change that?

Post by **Maveritchell** » Sat May 03, 2008 7:52 pm

Try "tool_jumpfall" instead of "tool_fall." To be honest, I don't remember offhand the exact name of the animation, so I'm guessing at which one's right. You can see where I'm getting the name of the animations by looking through the assets/animations/human_1-4 folders. Any prefix is omitted when adding the animation (so no human_, dooku_, vader_, etc.).

Testakleez · Post by **Testakleez** » Sat May 03, 2008 8:22 pm

hah! it worked! i used thrown_tumbleback and it looks awesome! I guess this can be closed now, thanks a lot all of you!

MandeRek · Post by **MandeRek** » Sun May 04, 2008 4:59 am

SBF_Dann_Boeing wrote:You can only have one explosion effect but you can have it happen multiple times within the combo. The effect itself is marked out in the lightsaber odf, not the combo.

I mean, the combo says that the exp happens with the jumpattack with a certain line.. What line is it? Maybe you can modify that line a bit for a second explosion as odf..

Edit: This line calls for the explosion:

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    PlayExplosion(); // yep...

Can't you add this line. like PlayExplosion2(); // yep... to another anim, and make an Explosion2Name = "...." in the weapon odf?

Post by **Teancum** » Sun May 04, 2008 7:51 am

PlayExplosion(); is a function. You can't just make up new ones. The game only knows the ones it was coded with.

MandeRek · Post by **MandeRek** » Sun May 04, 2008 8:11 am

Okay.. I just wondered

Thanks Tean

Testakleez · Post by **Testakleez** » Sun May 04, 2008 9:13 am

so you cant add an argument in between the () in the function?

MandeRek · Post by **MandeRek** » Sun May 04, 2008 10:52 am

0= a no, and 1 = a yes.. There are no other options possible (might be other way around, but one of those

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