Yavin 4: Arena (beta v0.975) -- New version March 20, 06

squipple · Post by **squipple** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:37 am

Wow, Ventress's force wave is wicked!
The Conquest CP is now grounded, the overlapping 1-flag CP is taken care of, and the birds are fixed now too.
And man, going straight up the gut on CTF can be quite tough!
Nice job Tean!

The ground is still really dark. It's no longer completely black, but the patterns are just faintly distinguishable. If you need another screenie, I'll post one. I don't know if you're unable to see it on your end, or maybe it's just really tough to tweak.

Something that just arose in the .95 version is multiplayer crashing. It seems to happen on any game type and only happens if others are in your hosted game when the map starts. It crashes to the desktop right after the loading screen. If nobody's on your hosted game, it works fine, and if people join after the map has started, it works fine.

I have no mods installed.

figor007 · Post by **figor007** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:48 am

I found one problem here... And another suggestion.

First the problem. The name of Asajj and his force power do not appear in the list.

A suggestion is. Leia has the blue wave, Grievous has red and you try to make a wave without color for Asajj. Giving a effect of movement of air. I think that I would be cool!

Sorry for too many suggestion...

Post by **Teancum** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:53 am

Can anyone else confirm this bug? It looks fine on my machine. Perhaps it's another language or US english / UK English error.

And We'll keep Asajj's force wave this color. It fits because it's a dark power.

@Squipple -- I don't know what's causing the crash. I testing everything by hosting games on my machine, but couldn't reproduce it. It probably has to do with the fact that it's a custom map.

@Desann -- Yeah I really need to do some more with the Chiss. I'm open to suggestions.

Y2g2006 · Post by **Y2g2006** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:22 am

The bug could be something as simple as a respawn bug.

I know on the Cloud City map that was just made... I respawned once and fell right through the map for absolutely no reason.
When I attempted to recreate it... I was unable to.

Could be something as simple as the AI falling through the floor of the temple and not being able to get out because they are blocked in.

I'm really unsure about that though. The AI seemed to favor a certain corner on the map (or so it seemed). Maybe that is where the problem is. Thats, and I find it hard to believe that a respawn bug happened twice like that.

Dunno if this helps, but it was in Assault... you probably already knew that though.

EDIT: There almost has to be a glitch somewhere. I played through the map again, and at first there were no signs of problems. Just the AI getting caught up in walls. Near the end.... their was at least two or more in the same spot as my last screen.

Here are some images of the AI behavior getting caught up in certain areas. I think its because of a lack of collision detection, but I'm not sure.

All the problems I've been experiencing for the most part have been in that general area. Basically that entire side.

dreadlordnyax · Post by **dreadlordnyax** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:55 pm

a couple things:

first, the chiss hero is definitely too weak, he dies in one hit. if you're looking for something else to do with him, try adding a ranged weapon of some sort (charric?), that'd be pretty cool, plus none of the other heroes have anything like that. he looked cool, but i couldn't really have fun playing as him cuz he kept on dying

secondly, like that screen figor posted, theres this weird option at the bottom of the hero assault (not sure if it was in the other versions) that says "list of profiles". it seems to be permanently selected (lighter color), and nothing happens when you click on it. i think it was there for both heroes and villains. doesn't seem to really matter, but i thought i'd point it out.

Post by **Teancum** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:09 pm

List of profiles is simply some text saying "Here's all the heroes"

As far as the Chiss being weak, it's been mentioned several times (though I haven't said much about it) and I should be fixing it tonight. (though a new version will not be released until the sounds are done for vehicles and whatnot)

-Regarding the Heroes running into walls, I've also replied to this before -- They use the same botpaths as all other modes (this cannot be changed). It's just an unfortunate bug that I have no idea how to fix.

Post by **EraOfDesann** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:39 pm

Maybe you could give Jano (that's the Chiss right?) that stamina move that Leia has instead of Force push. Just a suggestion.

Post by **Teancum** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:07 am

@ swbffiles.com staff -- Delta_57_Dash & Kryoss (I think it's you two) - Please pull Yavin 4: Arena from the files. The comments section bothers me to no extent.

Post by **Teancum** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:00 am

New version out. See first post

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:40 pm

New version!!!

Teancum
I have ideas for heros-slots.
For exaple: Admiral Thrawn and clone commandos: Boss, Fixer, Sev, Scorch

PaganJedi · Post by **PaganJedi** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:23 pm

SWEET! Now it's just like the episode of CloneWars where Ventress and Skywalker duel atop the temples, very awesome. You've brought new life to one of my old favorites Tean, rock on man!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:34 pm

Teancum
why you don`t add Plo Koon? will you add this hero at next version?

Post by **Teancum** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:45 pm

@ JK514 -- Plo Koon will not fit in Hero Assault unless we remove a hero and put him in his place.

*edit* I added a poll to see who would be removed if we added Plo Koon. I'm not even sure I will, but I thought I'd see what all of you think.

sh4d0wl0rd · Post by **sh4d0wl0rd** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:58 pm

I would replace Obi Wan since he is nearly the same as Anakin (ep2)

Y2g2006 · Post by **Y2g2006** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:46 pm

I'm just not a Leia fan, so she has my vote. I'd rather see a non jedi get the boot rather then a jedi.

Post by **Teancum** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:49 pm

Wow... apparently people think Leia sucks compared to others. That's okay, because I do too. Still, it's cool to have her as a hero.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:53 pm

Teancum
do you remember, you sayed me about max slots for heroes? 30 slots each side or 30 ec 2 side?

Narlie-Charlie · Post by **Narlie-Charlie** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:55 pm

Yeah, I like useing her for sniping sometimes.

Y2g2006 · Post by **Y2g2006** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:38 pm

Teancum wrote:Wow... apparently people think Leia sucks compared to others. That's okay, because I do too. Still, it's cool to have her as a hero.

Its not that she sucks... its just that she works a lot better against infantry then she does against Heros. The real down side to her is that her weapon overheats too fast. And the fact that the beam goes through the enemy just doesn't make up for it in Assault situations where a good bit of the fighting is spread out (and then the TKing factor comes into play).

She poses more of a problem because you have to literally check your fire. Especially playing online. I am sure a lot of people hold grudges when they accidently get TKed.

For that, Leia has to go. In my opinion. Her detonators just don't add anything to the fight (you almost have to be stupid to get hit by them)... and her area buff, while good, just doesn't make up for the bad weapon. You almost need consistent head shots to be effective with her.

I think Chewy can sometimes be even more of a disappointment, but the one thing that kept me from choosing him is the fact that with his weapon (that being the crossbow)... Its real hard to TK someone. They also have to walk in front of you in order to get TKed. That and his weapon can be universally used in long range and close quarters combat. And his area buff makes using him all the more worth while.

Sorry for the rambling, I just want to make it clear that I really don't think Leia sucks. She just isn't ment to be used in this specific game mode (in my honest opinion).

Jessicka · Post by **Jessicka** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:56 pm

great map but i deleted the last version, I like that anakin better. Is there still a working link around for that one?

Yavin 4: Arena (beta v0.975) -- New version March 20, 06

If I added Plo Koon, who should he replace in Hero Assault?