well, basically, Whenever I spawn i look up and then it crashes.

It is i gigantic map. I took out so many objects that there is only like 5 now, no vehicles or anything. is there a way to make it work without downsizing the map? cause Ive seen some really big maps out there

show you're BF2log

thats just it, it didnt say there were any errors

I created a time ago also a big map, and everything worked by me.. so i dont think the size of your map is the problem.
Are you sure there aren't Severity 3 messages in the BF2log?

Post your log. The Severenty 2 thingys could do something.

Dlete all odfs mshs and anything else you don't need then munge.

thanx ill try that

alright, i think it is the water actually, is there any way i could make it not crash while still having water?

Log?

thats just it, theres no log

After you run the bf2 modtools there's no log at all?

yup, its weird

remove water and see what happens. Did you modify sides? If yes show munge log also. And get rid of everything not needed.