Eddie's Maps

rebel_scum · Post by **rebel_scum** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:36 pm

lol thats funny

rebel_scum · Post by **rebel_scum** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:52 pm

i tried it out and its good i just won pretty fast maybe have the main spawns uncapturable maybe i'm just picky though

other than that its good i've been dying for a city map like this thanks again

fett42 · Post by **fett42** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:53 am

The SP version is pretty good. rebel_scum mentioned that it ended pretty fast for him. It was the same for me, although I refused to capture the last spawn point until close to the end. I agree that the main starting CPs could be left uncapturable as in the other version of this map. I like the idea of the last team standing.

*edit*

I just played Italia again, the SP version. This time it lasted until there was only 1 person left on the other side but they once again only had one CP under their control. That's ok though because that happens on other maps too. About the only thing I can think of to change that would be increase the ammount of units per team that are on the map at one time. That might make the gameplay worse for this map though.

The only other constructive criticism I can think of is put a CP in the "house". I guess it is a house. I'm talking about the place that can be reached by jumping on the crates or going down the stairs if you're coming from the other direction. Of course if the AI has trouble getting to that area then a CP would be pointless.

eddie · Post by **eddie** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:41 am

Well guys thanx for test it. You are great help.

back to italia sp (edit v0.85): I moved reb spawn behind the wall and imp spawn behind the house to give more room to the map and to have some extra corridors. Also, there is spawn inside the central house (to see how that will work out and boxes under the window are changed to enterence) and both teams got extra two solders.
I was thinking to finish SP first and then just remove all extra spawns for MP.
You can test it at:

http://www.gametoast.com/modules.php?op ... tit&lid=68

Edit: BlackHawk549 I think I found what you were talking about, thanx.

PaNzErgsp · Post by **PaNzErgsp** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:26 am

Eddie, I played the newest version and found it to be signifigantly improved compared to the original SP map.

One glitch for me:

The IMP cp is captured many times during the game, while the ALL cp is never even close to being captured. This might be on purpose though. Just wanted to point it out.

Raxor · Post by **Raxor** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:56 pm

one thing i noticed, you can actually get outside the compound near the start, maybe you should add an invisible barrier where you cant jump out
this is near the imp/cis spawn

and also maybe add annother courtyard like area for more firefights

it seems like it is very hard to take cps as the capture region is very close

nice ai pathing, testing it just now and nothing like seeing all the bots swarm the cp

nice work and better than the last version

hope you like the feedback

eddie · Post by **eddie** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:02 pm

GSP: it seems that since there is only 10 players a team, it greatly depends what you do, fo me it was other way around

Rextor: I did fix all those spots, so in the nexe release.....

rebel_scum · Post by **rebel_scum** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:10 pm

for me it was easy to take the spawns
but maybe becuase i was trying
i still think you should have the main spawns be uncapturable but thats just my opinoin

Raxor · Post by **Raxor** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:33 pm

i was just generally thinking of it in an online enviroment, something with a good layout as this could be used as a league map if you see where im coming from

eddie · Post by **eddie** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:54 pm

rebel_scum: Will try since we are still testing....
Raxor: as I said, once done with SP (v1.0) I will remove all neutral points, make major ones uncapturable and release the map as MP version as one download and SP version as another.

fett42 · Post by **fett42** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:59 pm

I like the newest version of Italia. I like how you opened up some parts of the level and added some CPs. The gameplay has improved since the last version of this map and so has the overall level design.

The first time I played version .85 I/my team (the Rebels) captured all of the CPs fairly easily. The second time I played I was on the Rebel's side again and it came down to the last guy on the Empire's side and he/they were in control of two or three CPs. So I wouldn't say that everytime is an easy win, which is a good thing.

rebel_scum · Post by **rebel_scum** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:31 pm

i agree with fett42 after playing it the third time but it all depends
on which team your on

eddie · Post by **eddie** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:38 pm

Eddie's Italia v0.90 is out

http://www.gametoast.com/modules.php?op ... tit&lid=68

New: a lot + main spawns are uncapturable now, see how that works out...

rebel_scum · Post by **rebel_scum** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:23 pm

i'm downloading it now

rebel_scum · Post by **rebel_scum** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:50 pm

i playing it on both sides, and it is fair for each side.
i like how you put new things in and i think this COULD be the final version which is up
to you but it is definetly good enough

keep up the good work and thanks

fett42 · Post by **fett42** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:06 pm

Very nice eddie. I agree with rebel_scum that Italia is now good enough to be a final version if that's what you desire to do. Making the main spawns uncapturable improved the map. Italia and Kastel are two of the best all infantry maps I have downloaded.

BTW, thank you for making so many good maps for this game. You are one of the few people that have made BF have a lot of replay value.

BlackHawk549 · Post by **BlackHawk549** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:13 pm

this is an awesome map! i like how theres all the small places to sneak around!

BlackHawk549 · Post by **BlackHawk549** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:15 pm

This is certainly lucasarts quality!

eddie · Post by **eddie** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:07 am

You guys do not mind that troops just stand around when they reach opposite main spawn? I was thinking of putting them capturable again...

And before 1.0 I will just check/recheck AI paths and add little more decorative stuff if I think of some.

And for MP no nutreals and main will not be capturable - is this called death match?

fett42 · Post by **fett42** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:31 am

I didn't notice them just standing around at the opposite main spawn points when I played. I'll try it again later and see if I notice it this time.

The MP version you described is pretty much a team death match except it is last team standing. In DM's you usually play until someone or some team gets a certain ammount of kills/frags or the time runs out. So playing until all of the other people on the other team are dead would be last team standing rules.