Training Installation IC-177 (Released!)

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:eek: that looks great
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Nice work! It really reminds me of some of the little challenge stages in Super Mario Sunshine.
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The map looks excellent and unlike any map I've ever seen. I can't to see what gameplay is like on it.
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The new rotation animation is pretty darn cool looking!

Also, was your inspiration Mario?
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I'm guessing the inspiration was either the aforementioned Mario Sunshine, maybe a little bit of Portal, and possibly Tron. I am also thinking Mass Effect, but that's probably because of the avatar you have. :P

Love the rotation effect there.

Anyways, keep up the good work.
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I'm actually sort of surprised you all are trying to guess what my inspirations were. It's makes it a little more fun for me, you know? :D

But I'm sorry to inform you all that Jendo7 already pointed out my primary source of inspiration, and that is Mirror's Edge. More specifically, the Time Attack DLC. There is a video right Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBZm7aQbnak

I couldn't accurately represent the broken-up style in Battlefront all that easily. I basically had to make each piece bigger, which kind of ruins the look. The style works for Mirror's Edge because the game is all about traversing complicated areas like this.

All in all, I'm still happy with how close I was able to represent the same style in Battlefront :)
Fusion wrote:I'm guessing the inspiration was either the aforementioned Mario Sunshine, maybe a little bit of Portal, and possibly Tron. I am also thinking Mass Effect, but that's probably because of the avatar you have. :P

Love the rotation effect there.

Anyways, keep up the good work.
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This map looks great. Very interesting design.
Also, my laptop specs:
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I'm assuming if BFII runs fine on your computer, the computer specs are not necessary for a custom map...

I, too, like the style a great deal. I hope this isn't the only map you have planned to create this way, a series would be awesome, but if it is the only map of it's kind... well, I'll just have to settle :wink: . Lookin' forward to the release!
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Twilight_Warrior wrote:I'm assuming if BFII runs fine on your computer, the computer specs are not necessary for a custom map...

I, too, like the style a great deal. I hope this isn't the only map you have planned to create this way, a series would be awesome, but if it is the only map of it's kind... well, I'll just have to settle :wink: . Lookin' forward to the release!
Actually, the thought of a larger, more vehicle-centric map of the same style passed my mind a couple of times. It'll happen after my next map, though.

Also, I asked for people to tell me the general power of their computer, for a more balanced group of testers. :wink:
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The Nasal Abyss wrote:I asked for people to tell me the general power of their computer, for a more balanced group of testers.
I'll throw my hat into that ring.
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Just built a computer, specs are pretty high:

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Graphics, RAM, and Processing all get .3 or less away from a perfect score in the Windows Experience Index.

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Wow, that looks excellent. However, the purity of a lot of the white surfaces looks kinda bad. I think it would definitely look better if you had all of the white surfaces uniform, as in either all of them envmapped or no envmapping at all. Of course, I'm not sure if that's intentional or if it's just something you're in the middle of doing. I also think that the SW character models and textures just look way out of place on that surface, as they have lots of small details while the map is just the big pieces. I understand that you can't do much, if anything, about that with DTII, but making the units more uniform with the map could be a nice touch in plain conquest.
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Fluffy_the_ic wrote:Wow, that looks excellent. However, the purity of a lot of the white surfaces looks kinda bad. I think it would definitely look better if you had all of the white surfaces uniform, as in either all of them envmapped or no envmapping at all. Of course, I'm not sure if that's intentional or if it's just something you're in the middle of doing. I also think that the SW character models and textures just look way out of place on that surface, as they have lots of small details while the map is just the big pieces. I understand that you can't do much, if anything, about that with DTII, but making the units more uniform with the map could be a nice touch in plain conquest.
I understand all of your concerns, and I'm thankful for the positive thought.
However, the purity of a lot of the white surfaces looks kinda bad. I think it would definitely look better if you had all of the white surfaces uniform, as in either all of them envmapped or no envmapping at all.
Unfortunately, I can't help this issue. All of the white surfaces are envmapped (with the same cubemap, of course.) and they all have the same diffuse texture. However, if you notice in my video, all of the pieces that are at a ~90 angle appear brighter simply because how I have the cubemap set up. I have the cube map reflecting the sky, and I don't plan to make the reflections unrealistic just to have some consistency in the textures. I hope you understand.
I also think that the SW character models and textures just look way out of place on that surface, as they have lots of small details while the map is just the big pieces.
This is actually one of the things that was intentional. You may not see it in the same way that I do, but I wanted the detailed Star Wars characters to clash with the abstract simple style of the meshes. I think it makes the art style pop and catch the eye a little better. You also may not like it because you aren't used to seeing textures outside of the typical metal grate on BF mod maps. :wink:
But making the units more uniform with the map could be a nice touch in plain conquest.
Another aspect you may not enjoy is that it was never in my plan to change the stock sides. I have never liked most custom sides that modders make, so I didn't want to try it myself. Not even skins. Sorry.

I also thank everybody for posting their specs. I don't have a less powerful computer to test this on, so thanks for telling me. I already have some of you in mind for beta.
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[quote="The Nasal Abyss"][quote="Fluffy_the_ic"]Wow, that looks excellent. However, the purity of a lot of the white surfaces looks kinda bad. I think it would definitely look better if you had all of the white surfaces uniform, as in either all of them envmapped or no envmapping at all. Of course, I'm not sure if that's intentional or if it's just something you're in the middle of doing. I also think that the SW character models and textures just look way out of place on that surface, as they have lots of small details while the map is just the big pieces. I understand that you can't do much, if anything, about that with DTII, but making the units more uniform with the map could be a nice touch in plain conquest.[/quote]

I understand all of your concerns, and I'm thankful for the positive thought.

[quote]However, the purity of a lot of the white surfaces looks kinda bad. I think it would definitely look better if you had all of the white surfaces uniform, as in either all of them envmapped or no envmapping at all.[/quote]

1:Unfortunately, I can't help this issue. All of the white surfaces are envmapped (with the same cubemap, of course.) and they all have the same diffuse texture. However, if you notice in my video, all of the pieces that are at a ~90 angle appear brighter simply because how I have the cubemap set up. I have the cube map reflecting the sky, and I don't plan to make the reflections unrealistic just to have some consistency in the textures. I hope you understand.

[quote]I also think that the SW character models and textures just look way out of place on that surface, as they have lots of small details while the map is just the big pieces.[/quote]

2:This is actually one of the things that was intentional. You may not see it in the same way that I do, but I wanted the detailed Star Wars characters to clash with the abstract simple style of the meshes. I think it makes the art style pop and catch the eye a little better. You also may not like it because you aren't used to seeing textures outside of the typical metal grate on BF mod maps. :wink:

[quote]But making the units more uniform with the map could be a nice touch in plain conquest.[/quote]

3:Another aspect you may not enjoy is that it was never in my plan to change the stock sides. I have never liked most custom sides that modders make, so I didn't want to try it myself. Not even skins. Sorry.

I also thank everybody for posting their specs. I don't have a less powerful computer to test this on, so thanks for telling me. I already have some of you in mind for beta.[/quote]
1: Ah, that makes sense.
2: Okay, I can understand that. Also, I hate seeing that dang texture, which is why I never used it when I modeled.
3: Actually, I have no problem with doing that. The stock sides, in my opinion, are really good. Then again, in the video, you only showed DTII, which has grit and the like, when at least the stock GCW sides are all pristinely colored and should blend in much better.

Discussing the physical appearance of a map is kind of making me want to start mapping again, I forgot how much I enjoyed this game. :P
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Beta is out! Congrats to those that got chosen (I guess) and just post your impressions here.

It was a relatively small group, but I'm not expecting any big problems. Thank you ahead of time!
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Fantastic! Downloading now :D
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I gave the map a quick play-through in each era and didn't notice any real problems. The visual style of the map is a refreshing change of pace from ordinary maps. Although I always enjoy a good map based on a Star Wars location, it's nice to see someone trying a different style. I can only think of two suggestions for quick changes before a final release:

-Switch the Rebel units to the Tantive IV variants; the desert variant looks out of place in the map.
-I noticed a green ambient light in one of the green tunnels. It was a nice touch, but I didn't notice similar lights in other enclosed areas, so it might be good to add some if you think they'll fit (there aren't really any other completely enclosed tunnels, I suppose).

All in all, the map is definitely ready for a final release. :thumbs:
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