Polus: Hidden Cavern

XxDepredationxX · Post by **XxDepredationxX** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:02 am

Really nice screenies but....the dead clones aren't my taste. The ewok looks good though

RevanSithLord · Post by **RevanSithLord** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:06 am

lol... I'd say the Ewok.

It gives some humor, then again it gives some Drama as to how dark of a time it was.

"Aww look! A cute lil Teddy Bea...*BOOM* AAARGFGJJHHH!!!"

EGG_GUTS · Post by **EGG_GUTS** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:43 am

To me a screen shot is:

A look over the battle field
A dead body close to the screen but still showing the battle behind it
a glamor shot of a unit ON THE SIDE showing the battle behind him

authraw · Post by **authraw** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:50 am

Oooh. I really like that Weequay one. I think I'll be using that. The shooting dark trooper is pretty good, too.

I think I have enough for now. I'll probably want a few more after I release the next beta.

Thanks a lot, EGG_GUTS!

EDIT: Oh, wait, I just realized--I don't have any shots of Assault mode. Would you mind taking a few Assault mode shots? Pretty please?

LastJedi · Post by **LastJedi** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:57 pm

There's 5 of those I really like.

1. The dead Galactic Marine in the first thumbnail.
2. The Galactic Marine walking through the narrow hallway. Originally there were two marines in the narrow hallway (Behind the current one.)
3. The Weequay.
4. The falling shock trooper.
5. The dark trooper.

-LastJedi

DarthD.U.C.K. · Post by **DarthD.U.C.K.** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:59 am

Cool Map look like great minesanddetpackfun!!!
Why the mak isnt called rhenvar tunnels or something like this.
the clonecommanders and the drenadier looks cool.
Do you could release the assets ??

authraw · Post by **authraw** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:49 pm

DarthD.U.C.K. wrote:Cool Map look like great minesanddetpackfun!!!
Why the mak isnt called rhenvar tunnels or something like this.
the clonecommanders and the drenadier looks cool.
Do you could release the assets ??

I didn't want to make it on a planet that already has a bunch of good maps for it, so I didn't go with Rhen Var. Plus, Rhen Var isn't in Empire at War.

And I probably will release whatever assets from the map are mine (most of the Zann Consortium, I guess) if people ask for them. A lot of this map, however, is made from pulling together assets that other people have released (or asking nicely for them) and I can't release those assets on my own.

Clonedude55 · Post by **Clonedude55** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:05 pm

This map looks so cool

Kinda off topic: Were did you get the rhen var caves they are noe were in the assets

Xavious · Post by **Xavious** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:10 pm

The Battlefront I mod tools.

authraw · Post by **authraw** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:42 pm

I've pretty much reached a standstill when it comes to the sound issues. I've added a big red notice to the first post with a link to the topic I need help in. If I can't get help in that topic, I don't think I'll be able to fix any of the sound issues in the map.

The good news is, though, that most of the missing sounds are pretty minor and don't detract much from the map.

-Yock- · Post by **-Yock-** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:00 pm

Authraw, sides aren't everything.

I would suggest you to first make the map to be actually fun without any edited sides, so just after this you should think on making the new sides.

About the mandalorians, I think you should put the jet pack texture back on, cause they don't look like mandalorians without them lol.

Did you already tried to put a snow storm on the outside of the tunnels?

I'm really sorry for the delay on posting, and I won't forget to put your name on my map's credit list

authraw · Post by **authraw** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:41 am

-Yock- wrote:Authraw, sides aren't everything.

I would suggest you to first make the map to be actually fun without any edited sides, so just after this you should think on making the new sides.

About the mandalorians, I think you should put the jet pack texture back on, cause they don't look like mandalorians without them lol.

Did you already tried to put a snow storm on the outside of the tunnels?

I'm really sorry for the delay on posting, and I won't forget to put your name on my map's credit list

Thanks for the feedback. I'm actually quite happy with the map layout--but you're right, this map is focused pretty strongly on the sides. I dunno, the sides have always been my favourite part of any map, so that's just what I focused on.

I've actually already got some really good ideas for my next map, and it will focus a little more on map design (although it will have some awesome edited sides, too.

)

I'm still not sure how I feel about the jetpackless Mandalorians. I think I'll leave them in for the next private beta and see what people think first.

Actually, I'm getting pretty close to being ready to release another private beta--I've just got to fix those sound issues, as well as a few other minor tweaks.

authraw · Post by **authraw** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:30 pm

I hope nobody minds my double-posting, but this really is a completely different topic from my last post.

I've just finished compressing my second PRIVATE beta--I'll send a PM to all of my beta testers after it finishes uploading to filefront. Here's my new readme, it pretty much says everything:

POLUS: HIDDEN CAVERN ~ Private Beta #2
--------------------------------------

+Installation Instructions----------------------------------------------------+
|1. Extract to any folder
|2. Move the folder named "PGM" to your Star Wars Battlefront II/GameData/Addon
| folder
|3. Run Star Wars Battlefront II
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+Changes since last Beta version----------------------------------------------+
|==BUGS SQUASHED==
|* Fixed missing textures
|* Characters no longer can spawn underground
|* Snow no longer covers the bunker
|* Disruptor rifle now fires a white ball instead of a missile
|* Took away most of the Mandalorians' time bombs so that they don't TK each
| other
|* Fixed some bot pathing issues
|* Stormtroopers can now throw their thermal detonators the right distance
|* Removed the defiler's auto turret
|* The Mandalorians now shoot their missiles correctly
|* Spar's jetpack flames now appear
|* Fixed the wrist rocket icon
|* Dark Trooper PIII no longer kneels when killed
|
|==GAMEPLAY/AESTHETIC TWEAKS==
|* Raised reinforcement counts
|* Reskinned Ewok bomb
|* Lightened snow texture
|* Removed Mandalorian jetpacks
|* Increased Dark Trooper PIII health a bit
|* Added a "wrong way" zone
|* Added loading screens
|* Made the README look spiffy
|
|==SOUND CHANGES==
|* Gungan no longer speaks like a rebel soldier
|* Removed CIS announcer entirely
|* Clones no longer call the Mandalorians "Jango Fett"
|* Clones no longer call Spar "Boba Fett"
|* Fixed Appo's Bolt caster's sound
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+Issues that remain-----------------------------------------------------------+
|* AI still aren't perfect (and they probably never will be)
|* Bunker is really dark, despite having a lighter texture than the snow
|* Possible gameplay/balancing issues
|* There is one spot where you can see outside through a pillar of ice
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+Sound Issues-----------------------------------------------------------------+
|==COMPLETELY MISSING SOUNDS==
|* Everything about the droideka
|* One of the clone commanders' guns (Even though it uses the EXACT SAME
| sound files as some of the other guns in that mode that work!)
|* Almost all of the clone commanders' secondary weapons (Even though they use
| the EXACT SAME sounds as those used in the CW Conquest of this map!)
|* Spar's gun
|
|==INCORRECT SOUNDS==
|* Imperials sometimes yell "Tusken Raider!" (I could fix this, but because it
| would require that I make my own empire instead of just using the shipped
| one, which would make the filesize a LOT bigger than neccesary)
|* Dark Trooper Phase II sounds like a regular trooper (again, I could fix it,
| but at a cost to filesize)
|
|==UNITS THAT DON'T TALK==
|* Mandalorians- all
|* Zann Consortium- Grenadier, Defiler, Ewok Slave
|* Clone Commanders- all
|* Luminara, Plo Koon, Quinlan Vos, IG-88, Admiral Thrawn (CAN'T FIX!)
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
NOTE: If you know how to fix any of my missing sounds, PLEASE PM me! I'm out of
ideas. And yes, I followed Rends' tutorial. I can get the AT-ST to work, but
not these sounds.
NOTE 2: I could try to add in voices for most of the units that don't talk, but
it would add a lot to the filesize. Is it worth it?

+Issues that CAN'T BE FIXED---------------------------------------------------+
|* Transparent textures disappear behind Rhen Var ice
|* Jedi, IG-88, and Thrawn are missing sounds/chatter
|* Camera occasionally goes through a wall
|* Spar holds one arm out while flying with the rocket launcher
|* Friendly fire must be on for Ewok to die when he self-destructs
|* Quinlan Vos, Plo Koon, Luminara, IG-88, and Thrawn do not appear if you do
| not have the latest version of the SWBF1 conversion pack
|* Conquest, Galactic Civil War crashes if you have version 1.7.6 of the SWBF1
| conversion pack installed
|* No Mandalorian announcer
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+WHAT I NEED MY TESTERS TO DO--------------------------------------------------------+
|* Focus on Gameplay and balancing. How could I make the battles more fair, or
| are they fair already?
|* Look for and take screenshots of trouble spots where AI get stuck often
|* Of course, report any bugs you might find
|* Give your advise on the following issues:
| > Is the new Ewok skin better or worse than it was before?
| > Should I darken the snow more?
| > Should I give the Mandalorians their jetpacks back?
| > Should I try to add voices for the characters that don't have them? (WILL
| ADD TO FILESIZE!!)
| > Should I change the sounds for the Dark Trooper Phase II? (WILL ADD TO
| FILESIZE!!)
|
| > If you have any idea what I might be doing wrong when trying to fix my
| missing sounds, PLEASE tell me!
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+Special thanks to------------------------------------------------------------+
|* ]v[ for the Dark Trooper P III
|* Schizo for the weequay grenadier skin and help getting the dreadlocks to
| work
|* Archer01 for help with the self-destruct and the AI heroes script
|* Fordo, Dragon93, and Wazmol69 for the Mandalorian Skins
|* Fordo, C-26, and Teancum for the clone commander skins (except for Bacara--I
| made him myself)
|* Teancum for his jetpackless Mandalorian (and The_Emperor for providing the
| files)
|* My beta testers: LastJedi, dgass, Darth_Z13, -Yock-, and EGG_GUTS
|* Everyone who helped me in the modding forum
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

I've also added a poll to the topic regarding unit voices. So should I try to add voices to the Mandalorians and Zann consortium units (at the expense of a much larger filesize) or should I just leave it as-is? Personally, I'm thinking that the extra filesize wouldn't be worth it (it would be several extra megabytes--I'm blindly guessing 20 to 30 more.)

LastJedi · Post by **LastJedi** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:52 pm

The time bomb can be fixed. It is a hint node issue. You put the mine hint nodes in the map and the time bomb probably uses the same AI name. This can easily be fixed by going into the odf and changing its AI name to something else. (but what?)

-LastJedi

authraw · Post by **authraw** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:28 pm

LastJedi wrote:The time bomb can be fixed. It is a hint node issue. You put the mine hint nodes in the map and the time bomb probably uses the same AI name. This can easily be fixed by going into the odf and changing its AI name to something else. (but what?)

-LastJedi

I'm sure that would do it, but I'm not sure why they all had timebombs in the first place. They're kind of useless, if you ask me. I took them out for now--maybe I'll give them something else later.

XxDepredationxX · Post by **XxDepredationxX** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:23 am

Wow...the readme looks nice. Can the Mandalorians have Jango and Boba's voice?

authraw · Post by **authraw** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:28 pm

XxDepredationxX wrote:Wow...the readme looks nice. Can the Mandalorians have Jango and Boba's voice?

Well, they did at one time, but they said things like they were bounty hunters...and they're not bounty hunters. If I decide to make voices for them (not looking very likely) I'll try to make it match as close as I can to Jango and Boba.

ML_916 · Post by **ML_916** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:21 pm

authraw wrote:I'm still not sure how I feel about the jetpackless Mandalorians. I think I'll leave them in for the next private beta and see what people think first.

I'd rather have mandalorians with jetpacks than without... Jetpacks are cool.

authraw · Post by **authraw** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:27 pm

ML_916 wrote:
authraw wrote:I'm still not sure how I feel about the jetpackless Mandalorians. I think I'll leave them in for the next private beta and see what people think first.
I'd rather have mandalorians with jetpacks than without... Jetpacks are cool.

Yeah, jetpacks are cool, but I'm starting to like them without the jetpacks. It's a little more in-line with cannon (not all Mandalorians had jetpacks) and it helps to balance the sides a bit more.

I'm still not positive, but I'm really leaning towards letting just the commander and Spar have jetpacks.

Darth_Z13 · Post by **Darth_Z13** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:03 pm

All right my input:

only a couple of things to adress;

1. AI like to run into the corner in the small spiral ramp thing.
2. Spar was killed WAY too easily, he needs to be more powerful.
3. Get rid of some of the flamethrowers. Not all Mando's used them.

Other than that it was amazing!

Polus: Hidden Cavern

Should I try to add voices for my original units? (WILL ADD TO FILESIZE!)