W.I.P. LAAT/C

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I talk to psych0fred almost daily.
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minilogoguy18 wrote:you guys dont get it, you cant do this, if it were possible they would have included it in the game because both BF games run on a modified zero engine which was used for the clone wars game and the code for the LAAT/C was completely cut from the game.
WHAT? I remember when BF2 was in production, the programers were complaining or atleast stating that they had to start from sratch for BF2's engine.

Why am I not suprise by your statment. -_-

BTW the model looks great, and I like the AT TE as a bomb idea. :wink:
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Teancum wrote:I talk to psych0fred almost daily.
i mean the PAN guys, not psychofred, i now that he is the only one, who helped the community. :wink:
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Funny, I thought Psych0fred was part of Pandemic. :S
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RevanSithLord wrote:Funny, I thought Psych0fred was part of Pandemic. :S
He used to be :wink:
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Oh, well that's why I put was. ;)
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yeah he left pandemic right when BF2 was finished, but PAN-Fnord helped me alot and even though he wasnt posting i still got PM responses from him, he said he didnt mind helpin me cause i was the only one who really knew what they wanted and knew how to ask him. i too talk to psych0fred on msn almost every day and he helps me out with alot of stuff, he may not post very much but hell still look around the forums, hes still VERY involved with BF2 modding, he just keeps a low profile. ;)
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minilogoguy18 wrote:yeah he left pandemic right when BF2 was finished, but PAN-Fnord helped me alot and even though he wasnt posting i still got PM responses from him, he said he didnt mind helpin me cause i was the only one who really knew what they wanted and knew how to ask him. i too talk to psych0fred on msn almost every day and he helps me out with alot of stuff, he may not post very much but hell still look around the forums, hes still VERY involved with BF2 modding, he just keeps a low profile. ;)
Sounds like PAN Ford was just buttering you up! lol I think that was the wrong attitude for him to take. I know he helped a lot... before he dissapeared but didn't he realize that pretty much everyone was new to the mod tools and the majority of people would NOT be able to talk his "lingo". If he didn't want to have 50 newbies PMing him night and day he shouldn't of signed of for the job or stated that he can't be responsable for answer questions anymore.

Well, atleast he is helping you out. And hopfully that statement you made was just you being prideful becuase I don't to think of PAN-Ford in the wrong way!
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ok, we went off topic, we should talk about the PAN support in bandus thread
http://www.gametoast.com/index.php?name ... 2&start=45

he get no answer from PAN Fnord, and i think he knew how to ask him too. :roll:
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oh the whole thing about glow, psych0fred knows how to do it and he said hell show me, i just havnt had anything ive needed to use it on yet so i havnt asked, was there anything else from pandemic you guys wanted to know? im pretty sure the pandemic guys are busy with another project right now, you cant expect someone to be here 24/7 to help you guys out, its not thier job or life perpose to, some things you just have to learn yourself. also, about the mod tools exporter, you guys should take that up with softimage, only they can make addons for that program is its written differently and only they have the SDK to make anything for it, you shoulda read thier posts more clearly. only a few games have support from a learning version of a program, you guys should consider yourself lucky they even thought about doing it, its alot more than anyone else has ever gotten.
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minilogoguy18 wrote: im pretty sure the pandemic guys are busy with another project right now, you cant expect someone to be here 24/7 to help you guys out, its not thier job or life perpose to, some things you just have to learn yourself.
PAN KAiser wrote:
This is the official wish list thread. We tried our best in our limited time to get you guys all the files you need, and make things as easy as possible for you.Post any requests you guys would have for a follow-up release of the tools.Any files that we neglected to package up (please be SURE they are missing before you post, I'm pretty sure we got most everything) or any MINOR changes that could be made to the editor, or to the munge tool that would make your lives easier.

minilogoguy18 wrote:also, about the mod tools exporter, you guys should take that up with softimage, only they can make addons for that program is its written differently and only they have the SDK to make anything for it, you shoulda read thier posts more clearly.
PAN Kaiser wrote:
The exporter for mod tools XSI is on the way. It's actually done, but didn't make it in in time for the first tools release. It will either be released seperately, or with the next tools release.
minilogoguy18 wrote:was there anything else from pandemic you guys wanted to know?
PAN Kaiser wrote
Oh and, drumroll please........there will be an exporter for XSI mod tools. It's possible it may be released soon seperately, but it may have to wait until the next mod tools release


i think it would be nice, if we get any infos, if they want to do what they told as or not :D
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Post by Jawa_Killer »

it would be better if the PAN guys look into our threads and don't just respond to guys who are "better" than others -.-!
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minilogoguy18 wrote:you guys should consider yourself lucky they even thought about doing it, its alot more than anyone else has ever gotten.
erm sry 4 double post but THATS not right.....look at other games......they have an uncountable amount of documentation and tutorials......for example hl2..........i mean we are lucky and happy but what can we do with a closed box without key..........
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The reality is Pandemic WILL NOT be visiting anymore. Betcha 100 dollars. They have projects they MUST move forward on. It's how they earn their paychecks. The guys that visit here do it only out of the goodness of their hearts, and we have probably run them off by being rude.
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Post by minilogoguy18 »

HL2 is ONE game, i modded JA for a LONG time and we never got ANYTHING from the developers other than the compilers, only people who had 3ds max or full XSI could export models and NO ONE even got a skeleton, my friend corto made one based off of global coordinates of what the model viewer similar to bconstroctor said. he only said he didnt mind answering my questions but it was probably cause i was the only one who was clear or had a question that wasnt "OMG OMG OMG whens the mod tools exporter!!!!!1111" so

AVID/SOFTIMAGE IS MAKING THE EXPORTER AND NOT, I REPEAT, NOT PANDEMIC, THEY HAVE NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE EXPORTER, READ THE FREAKING POSTS!!!!!!!

seriously, making all the things you have questions on isnt that hard, dont rely so much on a development team to hold your hand through the entire process. also another game that had NO SUPPORT WHAT SO EVER was the KOTOR series, every tool for that game was USER made.
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I've modded games since 1997 and frankly, Pandemic is one of the best as far as helping out. They really gave us a ton of docs and stuff. I mean, the Quake, HL and UT series don't really count. They've all used the BSP engine, so there's already been tons of docs for years. People just update them for the new features. So that doesn't really count. Even the devs can just update HL1 documentation, which was updated from Quake 1 docs.
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I hate to break up your little conflict here but Dragonum is right. We should be staying on topic here.
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Post by Jawa_Killer »

we found a solution how to make the laatc dropping an atte......

PS: its not the fact that the exporter isn't there.....its the fact that they PROMISED something......look at their postes......they could have said that it isn't sure if they can do what they promised........
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Post by Teancum »

Well, like I said, it's not their fault. Softimage has to approve and set up the exporter. Last I heard from the devs I thought they sent it to Softimage ages ago.

Back on topic, I'm really interested to find out how you guys decided to make it drop an ATTE and whether it's pilotable, AI controlled, or runs through keyframes.
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Yes, do tell!
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