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The unnofficial "fat_walrus needs help" topic

Post by fat_walrus »

clean munge...what does this exactly do?
Last edited by fat_walrus on Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Kyross

RE: clean munge...

Post by Kyross »

I bet when people say they will make one topic for all their questions, it's because of you. I count 7 help topics form you on just the first page.

Cleaning is like unmunging, basically.
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

Really, sorry, I won't do that anymore. Thanks for telling me that I'm being really annoying, didn't notice that *smacks self in the face*.

Thanks, and I looked in a lot of other topics to find out how to change the sky, but it isn't working. I replaced ABC.sky with a renamed hoth1.sky, copied all of the files that the hoth1.sky says, but the sky in the game isn't changing. the ZE sky is, what's going on? I followed the Getting_Started doc but I must have done something wrong :(
Kyross

RE: clean munge...

Post by Kyross »

There are a few things you have to be sure of. Some shipped worlds have a PC folder in their world# folder. Those sometimes contian excess sky files. Once you have copied over all the neede files for the sky, you have to open the .sky file for that world and your own .sky, and completely copy over the contents to overwirte your default. This will call the files you copied. There should be a dome model, a texture for it, possibly a .tga.option and a .msh.option. Then there will likely be some planet specific effects/objects/textures for distances etc. If you're confident though you can mess with the sky file(your own not the shipped one) to remove what you don't want.
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

Thanks, I'll try that.
Kyross

RE: clean munge...

Post by Kyross »

If it doesn't work out I can post a list of the files you'd need.
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

Not working :\

EDIT: Thank you for putting some of your time into making a list of the files
Kyross

RE: clean munge...

Post by Kyross »

Doesn't take much time really, I just have to look over what's there and see what is needed.
Aha, in the shipped>worlds>hot>world1>pc folder copy everything there to your own folder.
Then delete everything in ABC.sky and paste in it:

SkyInfo()
{
Enable(1);

FogColor(203,201,203);
FogRange(100.0, 1000.000000);

PS2()
{
NearSceneRange(0.5, 200.000000, 270.000000);
NearSplitScreenRange(1.000000, 140.000000, 200.000000);
FarSceneRange(800.000000);
}
PC()
{
NearSceneRange(90.0, 250.0, 120.0, 300.0);
FarSceneRange(400.000000, 1400.0);
}
XBOX()
{
NearSceneRange(0.5, 200.000000, 270.000000);
NearSplitScreenRange(1.000000, 200.000000, 270.000000);
FarSceneRange(800.000000);
}
}

DomeInfo()
{
Texture("SKY_Hoth.tga");
Angle(190.000005);
Ambient(128.000038, 128.000038, 128.000038);
Softness(1);
SoftnessParam(60);

PC()
{
//TerrainBumpDetail("hoth_bump", 1.0, 0.3);
}
XBOX()
{
//TerrainBumpDetail("hoth_bump", 1.0, 0.3);
}

DomeModel()
{
Geometry("hoth_sky_dome");
}
DomeModel()
{
Geometry("hoth_mountain");
Offset(80.0);
MovementScale(0.995);
}
PS2()
{
DomeModel()
{
Geometry("hoth_mountain_2");
Offset(70.0);
MovementScale(0.995);
}
}
LowResTerrain()
{
Texture("hoth");
PatchResolution(6);
}
}


Welcome to Hoth. If this is right the sky in zeroedit should show some change.
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

It still shows the YAV sky, but the hoth sky is in ZE
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

Now I have a different problem:

I put the stardestroyer hanger suspended in the air with a command post in it and all the mula. I munge it, then when I play the level, it isn't there and you fall and die. Is there something I need to do to make this object appear? I copied all of the files needed over from a space map.

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Talibanman

RE: clean munge...

Post by Talibanman »

it may now be reading the old .lvl file. delete the map from addon, clean and remunge.
Kyross

RE: clean munge...

Post by Kyross »

Wat tali said. Sometimes munging only goes so far and you have to delete the folder and remunge to make a shiny brand new one.
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

Thanks, got that working. Now all I need is the sky :?
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

Sorry for the bump, but I have another question. How do I add the dome flyers? Do I just post them in the LUA, or do I have to do something special?
Talibanman

RE: clean munge...

Post by Talibanman »

they should have their place in the .sky file i think..
Kyross

RE: clean munge...

Post by Kyross »

Indeed. You add them as done objecs in the .sky file. Depending on what you want flying around decides what you put in that file.
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

Thanks I'll try that now :)

Another question:

Do hubs override Barriers?
Kyross

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Post by Kyross »

If you have a path that is crossed by a barrier they will get stuck at the barrier, hubs are just points telling the AI where to go.
fat_walrus

RE: clean munge...

Post by fat_walrus »

1) So there is no way to override a barrier?

2) And a bit of a dumb question, but they travel through the hub not between 2 hubs, correct?

PS
You are a huge help Kyross :chew:
Kyross

RE: clean munge...

Post by Kyross »

To my understanding when you connect hubs they ove along thise lines and may stand in a hub, then you can also tag hubs to get certain behaviour eg a patrol path or a place where a sniper will settle down.

I try. Did deleting and remunging work for the sky? If it apears in zeroedit as hoth sky then you did it right. If it isn't appearingin game that is a bit concerning.
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