Jedi with guns

skelltor · Post by **skelltor** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:04 am

how do i get a jedi to have a gun i got it so ai use guns but with the jedi having no button to swich attacks humans cant use them what do i change to get the lable of a unit to change from jedi to like a basic unit ?

myers73 · Post by **myers73** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:17 am

the gun has to be a secondary weapon

skelltor · Post by **skelltor** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:21 am

there is no way to make it a first wepon?

mswf · Post by **mswf** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:07 am

Yes, but then that unit can't have any secondary attacks. (this way, you can only have your unit use a melee weapon and a gun)

The_Emperor · Post by **The_Emperor** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:17 am

I thought there were no restrictions, as long as you made the gun the default weapon (the weapon the jedi spawns with, weapon slot 1) and the melee weapon in another slot (like slot 2). It doesn't have to be a secundairy (right mouse-click) weapon.

If you do it the other way around (melee weapon for starters, then gun) you can't switch back again. Then again, it has been 2 years since I modded a bit

lucasfart · Post by **lucasfart** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:21 am

The_Emperor wrote:I thought there were no restrictions, as long as you made the gun the default weapon (the weapon the jedi spawns with, weapon slot 1) and the melee weapon in another slot (like slot 2). It doesn't have to be a secundairy (right mouse-click) weapon.

If you do it the other way around (melee weapon for starters, then gun) you can't switch back again. Then again, it has been 2 years since I modded a bit

Yeah i think you're right Emp, i'm pretty sure i made a unit a while ago with both in primary weapon slots. this was almost a year ago so i can't remember if that was right.....

@MSWF - Are you sure about the no secondary weapons? so you're saying you can't have any force powers as well as 2 primary weps?

mswf · Post by **mswf** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:29 am

Yeah, if I remember correctly, that was one of those hardcoded things. You can set up your unit with one primary melee weapon, one primary ranged weapon and a secondary weapon, but you'll notice it won't work. (crash?)
Look at the "militia elite" from DT, for example. He has both a melee and ranged weapons as primary, but he can't have secondary weapons.

lucasfart · Post by **lucasfart** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:33 am

you're probably right MSWF so i'll just take your word for it

i just thought i remember seeing units with both + secondary weps...........must be imagining things

mswf · Post by **mswf** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:36 am

The militia unit uses a mortar, but that's also a primary weapon, remember?

kinetosimpetus · Post by **kinetosimpetus** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:22 am

Idk why people say you can't have secondary weapons, you can. The only thing is, [secondary fire] becomes [block] and [reload] becomes [secondary fire] unless the seconday weapon is itself reloading, empty, overheating, delayed. Then it is still [reload] the original [block] button becomes [crouch]. It is very possible but it is confusing and difficult to get used to.

mswf · Post by **mswf** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:59 am

Seriously? Ah, I didn't know that, thanks for pointing that out.

kinetosimpetus · Post by **kinetosimpetus** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:05 pm

Yeah, I didn't either till one day I tried to make a guy with blaster, saber, wristrocket and pushed buttons and weird stuff happened

Darth_Spiderpig · Post by **Darth_Spiderpig** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:12 pm

kinetosimpetus wrote:Yeah, I didn't either till one day I tried to make a guy with blaster, saber, wristrocket and pushed buttons and weird stuff happened

Same here.
Atm my Vizsla is blocking with darksaber when you press wrist rocket (secondary weap)

kinetosimpetus · Post by **kinetosimpetus** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:56 pm

Aim at a clone and hit reload then

skelltor · Post by **skelltor** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:49 am

so if i make him have no secondary weps and make the gun his default wep it should work?

but how do i make him able to change weps cuz jedi controols have no change first wepon how would i change his lable for what class of controlls he uses

and i am not sure but i thought i saw that luke in mavs dt2 trailer had a gun lightsaber and secondary weps

kinetosimpetus · Post by **kinetosimpetus** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:08 am

The_Emperor wrote:I thought there were no restrictions, as long as you made the gun the default weapon (the weapon the jedi spawns with, weapon slot 1) and the melee weapon in another slot (like slot 2). It doesn't have to be a secundairy (right mouse-click) weapon.

If you do it the other way around (melee weapon for starters, then gun) you can't switch back again. Then again, it has been 2 years since I modded a bit

Post by **Maveritchell** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:16 am

skelltor wrote:and i am not sure but i thought i saw that luke in mavs dt2 trailer had a gun lightsaber and secondary weps

You can do it either way, and in Dark Times I did. In that video, you saw Luke with a melee weapon as a primary weapon and a blaster as a secondary, because that works the best for his running animations. The regular units in Dark Times have multiple primary weapons but no secondary weapons (and of the primaries, one is a melee weapon) because I wanted the user to switch weapons to use a melee weapon, and they don't run as fast so the animation issue isn't as relevant.

The best way to do it is probably all as primary weapons. It keeps things simplest and you'll be fine so long as you make the melee weapon not the first weaponsection.

skelltor · Post by **skelltor** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:40 am

ok thanks guys will all wepons work in slot one like force,granade,ect?

mswf · Post by **mswf** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:14 am

I'm not sure, but I do think it should work. Try it out

skelltor · Post by **skelltor** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:15 am

k i will

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