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I didn't want to make a topic about this, but no matter how I weight it I can't get the clavicles to look good.
In xsi they look fine, and they deform pretty realistically.

But in game, they always end up looking horrible, like crushed cans. Notice the left shoulder (our right).


How do you all envelope the shoulder bones? Examples would be great. I looked through the stock units already. Thanks.

on the experience, envelope to clavicles on clones models, look very ugly, unless you envelope leather part placed between upperarm armor and torso, now talking human/species models well its very usefull but always using few points on that part of the body, why? because with many points you will get a big different like your image, but with few points you will get a bigger body's part move, so its more realistic, for example envelope to clavicles points near to the neck

I'm not sure I understand. So you recommend weighting it like this?

MileHighGuy wrote:I'm not sure I understand. So you recommend weighting it like this?

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lol my english is very bad, neck to ribcage, but the first line of points out of the neck and on the clavible bone, attach it to clavicle, i will try take pictures later

That would be great, thanks. There are so many times where I think I have it right, but I don't.

MileHighGuy wrote:That would be great, thanks. There are so many times where I think I have it right, but I don't.

its very difficult find the perfect position for the points attached to clavicle and which ones to upperarm, for example you can test clavicles envelope when the player jump, shoot and reload with pistol and rifle animation, and if you are using fett's flamethrower anim, without clavicles, its very ugly because the arm cross torso part xD

here my examples: i hope it be useful

Thanks Deviss, That helped. I also found that rotating the bones into extreme limits and weighting them helped too, Then I could press reset actor to move the bones back to normal position.

MileHighGuy wrote:Thanks Deviss, That helped. I also found that rotating the bones into extreme limits and weighting them helped too, Then I could press reset actor to move the bones back to normal position.

you are welcome and didnt know that, i will give a try too