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Eaol wrote:I was sort of annoyed by the Telos map, since it is simply renaming the Corellia map.
I don't want to have a big download for this mod if I get the same thing I can download faster from somewhere else. I won't get this unless you can make some significant modifications to that map and make some new ones.

you can't get all of this anywhere else

we aren't making significant modifications to any maps, (maybe some planning, vehicles and locals)

Ooh, nice map update. I'm really liking all these different colored Stormtrooper commanders.

IndianaJoe wrote: you can't get all of this anywhere else

He's talking about the maps, all of which you can get somewhere else. You have six or seven "extra" maps that are really just unnecessarily inflating the filesize, because they can all be downloaded basically as-is. You'd knock the size of your mod in half if you simply made addon eras/modes to those maps and just mention (in a readme somewhere) that they could be used with this mod.

Maveritchell wrote: He's talking about the maps, all of which you can get somewhere else.

Wrong.

When was the last time you played Ryloth: Canyon, or this Felucia: Deep Jungle?

IndianaJoe wrote:

Maveritchell wrote: He's talking about the maps, all of which you can get somewhere else.

Wrong.

When was the last time you played Ryloth: Canyon, or Felucia: Deep Jungle?

My mistake. The vast majority of which you can get somewhere else. The point still stands, I think - if you're just re-releasing a bunch of maps so that you can say "oh hey we have a bunch of maps" then it's unnecessary waste. You can save a lot of space and make it easier on all your downloaders if you just add in scripts.

Maveritchell wrote:

IndianaJoe wrote:

Maveritchell wrote: He's talking about the maps, all of which you can get somewhere else.

Wrong.

When was the last time you played Ryloth: Canyon, or Felucia: Deep Jungle?

My mistake. The vast majority of which you can get somewhere else. The point still stands, I think - if you're just re-releasing a bunch of maps so that you can say "oh hey we have a bunch of maps" then it's unnecessary waste. You can save a lot of space and make it easier on all your downloaders if you just add in scripts.

yeah but think: many people dont know make mods, and is more easy download this mod with map incluided also because many maps wasnt release his assets

Deviss wrote:yeah but think: many people dont know make mods, and is more easy download this mod with map incluided also because many maps wasnt release his assets

? That's not even relevant. You don't have to know how to make mods to use what I'm suggesting. All it does is prevent anyone who's already downloaded the map (and probably these are the people that would like it enough to keep it anyway) from having to download it a second time. It gives a better option to control the size of the download for the user, which is especially important if you're not giving something significantly new (on the map end of things).

You cause zero compatibility problems, there is no bearing on whether assets are released, you don't have to know how to make mods, etc. I'm just guessing, but with those maps added (just the ones you have listed) you're probably talking about a 500 MB download, easy. Reducing it to just the couple of legitimately new maps there are and making the rest script addons turns that 500MB download into a ~100MB download.

Maveritchell wrote:

Deviss wrote:yeah but think: many people dont know make mods, and is more easy download this mod with map incluided also because many maps wasnt release his assets

? That's not even relevant. You don't have to know how to make mods to use what I'm suggesting. All it does is prevent anyone who's already downloaded the map (and probably these are the people that would like it enough to keep it anyway) from having to download it a second time. It gives a better option to control the size of the download for the user, which is especially important if you're not giving something significantly new (on the map end of things).

You cause zero compatibility problems, there is no bearing on whether assets are released, you don't have to know how to make mods, etc. I'm just guessing, but with those maps added (just the ones you have listed) you're probably talking about a 500 MB download, easy. Reducing it to just the couple of legitimately new maps there are and making the rest script addons turns that 500MB download into a ~100MB download.

mm good point are you right, i shut my mouth xD

Maveritchell wrote: You have six or seven "extra" maps that are really just unnecessarily inflating the filesize, because they can all be downloaded basically as-is.

Well, some people (like me) don't have those maps; I'd rather download the whole thing all at once, than go map hunting. I do understand your point, though, and I agree that it is a waste of download time for those who do have them.

So... I'll repeat my suggestion:

Nihillo wrote:Make a full and a lite version. Full has everything; lite has only the sides and applies them to the other maps automatically.

There you go, everyone is happy!

I agree with Nihilo, Lite and Full versions would be awesome....

Would it be so much extra work to allow for the included maps to be downloaded seperately? If I get the full version and some of the maps crash (a common occurrence with some map packs, like Dark Space and BF:0,) they are needlessly taking up space on my HD and I cannot remove them. Just a thought.

Nihillo wrote:

Maveritchell wrote: You have six or seven "extra" maps that are really just unnecessarily inflating the filesize, because they can all be downloaded basically as-is.

Well, some people (like me) don't have those maps; I'd rather download the whole thing all at once, than go map hunting. I do understand your point, though, and I agree that it is a waste of download time for those who do have them.

So... I'll repeat my suggestion:

Nihillo wrote:Make a full and a lite version. Full has everything; lite has only the sides and applies them to the other maps automatically.

There you go, everyone is happy!

We are going with Mav's suggestion (thanks for the help ) and adding the new stuff (locals, mini-maps, and new vehicles spawns) in a separate layer. that way you only get the other maps if you D/L them.


@Eaol: you don't want it, you don't have to get it.

@everyone else: This issue is settled and I would appreciate it if we ended the discussion.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Nova Hawk wrote:Ooh, nice map update. I'm really liking all these different colored Stormtrooper commanders.

We have 4 at this time, Deviss (check my av) Bacara, a Black one, and the standard Blue one. might do a Bly...

oh bly would be cool how about a dark green one?

I was thinking more light green, but we'll see

oh yah like lime? that would be cool also

edit i was rerelooking at the screenshots and i noticed the gran how did i miss him before he looks great did you guys make him or find him?

he is imported from JKA, put on the vanguard body

i wish i could skin like that XD

UPDATE:

We are going with Mav's suggestion (thanks for the help ) and adding the new stuff (locals, mini-maps, and new vehicles spawns) in a separate layer; that way you only get the other maps if you D/L them.

The only maps that will be included in the download are: Ryloth, Raxus Prime, Geonosis: Canyons, maybe Sky's map, Felucia: Deep Jungle, and the 2 BF1 Rhen Var maps by AQT and DEVISS.

The others (Rori, Mimban, Mustafar: Blazing Gorge, Geonosis: Point Rain, etc...) can be downloaded seperetly. I will only include Takera, Corellia, and Dathomir in the D/L if TK hasn't released them.

However, if you are one of the people who was planning to send me your map assets, please do it anyway; that way I can easily add the stuff I want (mostly vehicle spawns) in.

Alright, I want this anyway, I'll admit it. But thanks for following Mav's suggestion.

impspy wrote:UPDATE:

We are going with Mav's suggestion (thanks for the help ) and adding the new stuff (locals, mini-maps, and new vehicles spawns) in a separate layer; that way you only get the other maps if you D/L them.

The only maps that will be included in the download are: Ryloth, Raxus Prime, Geonosis: Canyons, maybe Sky's map, Felucia: Deep Jungle, and the 2 BF1 Rhen Var maps by AQT and DEVISS.

The others (Rori, Mimban, Mustafar: Blazing Gorge, Geonosis: Point Rain, etc...) can be downloaded seperetly. I will only include Takera, Corellia, and Dathomir in the D/L if TK hasn't released them.

However, if you are one of the people who was planning to send me your map assets, please do it anyway; that way I can easily add the stuff I want (mostly vehicle spawns) in.

I want my map back, please. I could of released it separately if I wanted to.

Edit: I mean, I don't really understand what you are doing, and just don't release my map.