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Jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:04 am
by skelltor
how do i get a jedi to have a gun i got it so ai use guns but with the jedi having no button to swich attacks humans cant use them what do i change to get the lable of a unit to change from jedi to like a basic unit ?
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:17 am
by myers73
the gun has to be a secondary weapon
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:21 am
by skelltor
there is no way to make it a first wepon?
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:07 am
by mswf
Yes, but then that unit can't have any secondary attacks. (this way, you can only have your unit use a melee weapon and a gun)
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:17 am
by The_Emperor
I thought there were no restrictions, as long as you made the gun the default weapon (the weapon the jedi spawns with, weapon slot 1) and the melee weapon in another slot (like slot 2). It doesn't have to be a secundairy (right mouse-click) weapon.
If you do it the other way around (melee weapon for starters, then gun) you can't switch back again. Then again, it has been 2 years since I modded a bit
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:21 am
by lucasfart
The_Emperor wrote:I thought there were no restrictions, as long as you made the gun the default weapon (the weapon the jedi spawns with, weapon slot 1) and the melee weapon in another slot (like slot 2). It doesn't have to be a secundairy (right mouse-click) weapon.
If you do it the other way around (melee weapon for starters, then gun) you can't switch back again. Then again, it has been 2 years since I modded a bit
Yeah i think you're right Emp, i'm pretty sure i made a unit a while ago with both in primary weapon slots. this was almost a year ago so i can't remember if that was right.....
@MSWF - Are you sure about the no secondary weapons? so you're saying you can't have any force powers as well as 2 primary weps?
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:29 am
by mswf
Yeah, if I remember correctly, that was one of those hardcoded things. You can set up your unit with one primary melee weapon, one primary ranged weapon and a secondary weapon, but you'll notice it won't work. (crash?)
Look at the "militia elite" from DT, for example. He has both a melee and ranged weapons as primary, but he can't have secondary weapons.
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:33 am
by lucasfart
you're probably right MSWF so i'll just take your word for it
i just thought i remember seeing units with both + secondary weps...........must be imagining things
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:36 am
by mswf
The militia unit uses a mortar, but that's also a primary weapon, remember?
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:22 am
by kinetosimpetus
Idk why people say you can't have secondary weapons, you can. The only thing is, [secondary fire] becomes [block] and [reload] becomes [secondary fire] unless the seconday weapon is itself reloading, empty, overheating, delayed. Then it is still [reload] the original [block] button becomes [crouch]. It is very possible but it is confusing and difficult to get used to.
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:59 am
by mswf
Seriously? Ah, I didn't know that, thanks for pointing that out.
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:05 pm
by kinetosimpetus
Yeah, I didn't either till one day I tried to make a guy with blaster, saber, wristrocket and pushed buttons and weird stuff happened
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:12 pm
by Darth_Spiderpig
kinetosimpetus wrote:Yeah, I didn't either till one day I tried to make a guy with blaster, saber, wristrocket and pushed buttons and weird stuff happened
Same here.
Atm my Vizsla is blocking with darksaber when you press wrist rocket (secondary weap)
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:56 pm
by kinetosimpetus
Aim at a clone and hit reload then
Re: Jedi with guns
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:49 am
by skelltor
so if i make him have no secondary weps and make the gun his default wep it should work?
but how do i make him able to change weps cuz jedi controols have no change first wepon how would i change his lable for what class of controlls he uses
and i am not sure but i thought i saw that luke in mavs dt2 trailer had a gun lightsaber and secondary weps
Re: jedi with guns
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:08 am
by kinetosimpetus
The_Emperor wrote:I thought there were no restrictions, as long as you made the gun the default weapon (the weapon the jedi spawns with,
weapon slot 1) and the melee weapon in another slot (like slot 2). It doesn't have to be a secundairy (right mouse-click) weapon.
If you do it the other way around (melee weapon for starters, then gun) you can't switch back again. Then again, it has been 2 years since I modded a bit
Re: Jedi with guns
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:16 am
by Maveritchell
skelltor wrote:and i am not sure but i thought i saw that luke in mavs dt2 trailer had a gun lightsaber and secondary weps
You can do it either way, and in Dark Times I did. In that video, you saw Luke with a melee weapon as a primary weapon and a blaster as a secondary, because that works the best for his running animations. The regular units in Dark Times have multiple primary weapons but no secondary weapons (and of the primaries, one is a melee weapon) because I wanted the user to switch weapons to use a melee weapon, and they don't run as fast so the animation issue isn't as relevant.
The best way to do it is probably all as primary weapons. It keeps things simplest and you'll be fine so long as you make the melee weapon not the first weaponsection.
Re: Jedi with guns
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:40 am
by skelltor
ok thanks guys will all wepons work in slot one like force,granade,ect?
Re: Jedi with guns
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:14 am
by mswf
I'm not sure, but I do think it should work. Try it out
Re: Jedi with guns
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:15 am
by skelltor
k i will