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I would not be surprised if they intentionally wrote a bad ending so they could release DLC and monetise this to, considering how they acted with the prothean.

@Dinomight

Except for the fact that Bioware is now losing money from this. Nowadays a lot of people such as myself wait for public opinion before I rush to buy a game, and people will be discouraged by this outcry against the ending. Also as I said before, you can return the game to retailers and get your money back, even if you played the entire game.

So I seriously doubt that it was intentionally bad so that they could monetize, and if it was it has backfired.

Keep in mind there were going to be different endings, but then there was the script leak and they rewrote them.

@Fluffy_the_ic

I never did read that script leak, perhaps I should. Regardless, you shouldn't rewrite your endings because it was leaked. That's counter-productive, and look where it leads you.

I heard the ends in the leaked script were worse than what we got.

I think they were supposed to be something like What we got is about 5x stupider than that. It's like Xzibit wrote it or something.

Fluffy_the_ic wrote:I think they were supposed to be something like

Hidden/Spoiler:

the cycles happened every 50k years because the reapers were harvesting us to protect us from dark matter.

What we got is about 5x stupider than that. It's like Xzibit wrote it or something.

That's what I heard to and that was written by Drew. So it kind of says alot about Mac. The dark energy story would have been interesting, but I don't know how I feel about the Reapers doing more/being more than reaping.

Nobody should hold off from the game because of the ending. The campaign is incredible, up until about halfway through the ending cutscenes, hahaha. I'm not kidding. This is coming from a Mass Effect 1 > Mass Effect 2 person, also.

99% of Mass Effect 3 is incredible. Including the addictive multiplayer. Buy it.

Remember that link Teancum gave us of Angry Joe describing why we hate the ending?


Well, here is another from the same guy, about the theory about the ending.

Ive played through all three endings now and i am also not satisfied.

More or less you're spot on DUCK.

@Wulf: And after watching it I think Bioware was thinking the fans would react as OOOO OMG WHAT JUST HAPPENED. WHAT WILL BE THE NEXT ADVENTURE. Be more mystified speculation instead of this pure hate. But the key part that stopped that from happening is the "END OF A TRILOGY" part. Ya we expect DLC because that's how the industry works now, but if an ending DLC was preplanned that's just dumb. Even more so if it will be charged for.

@moving target

Well before release bioware said that they had a dlc plan that no one would believe.

Moving_Target wrote:but if an ending DLC was preplanned that's just dumb. Even more so if it will be charged for.

Why? And you really expect a large-scale game developer to release content that its employees worked hard on, for a salary, paid by that large-scale game developer, to be completely free of charge?

Marth8880 wrote:Why? And you really expect a large-scale game developer to release content that its employees worked hard on, for a salary, paid by that large-scale game developer, to be completely free of charge?

Moving_Target wrote:if an ending DLC was preplanned

People already paid for the game, why charge more for stuff that was going to be put in the game since before the release? I realize there's a whole deadline process, but if the ending DLC is preplanned, that makes two preplanned DLCs, an extra $20. Delay the game for Pete's sake, don't wring the fanbase for money by selling them an incomplete game, then charging them for things you wanted to put in, but "didn't have time."

@marth: do you mean that as general statement or is it irony on the subjetc of an ending dlc? because i cant imagine anything more ironic than a good ending you have to pay for.
imagine watching return of the jedi in the cinema. when vader charges for sidius and throws him into the shaft the movie black out and the credits roll. then a clerk comes in and says "that was the story of how luke skywalker became a legend. if you want to learn how his story ended, pay an extra 3$ and proceed to hall 3 where you can see the last 7 minutes of the movie."

DarthD.U.C.K. wrote: imagine watching return of the jedi in the cinema. when vader charges for sidius and throws him into the shaft the movie black out and the credits roll. then a clerk comes in and says "that was the story of how luke skywalker became a legend. if you want to learn how his story ended, pay an extra 3$ and proceed to hall 3 where you can see the last 7 minutes of the movie."

I'd say a more accurate analogy would be if 20th Century Fox gave Lucas a deadline, Lucas hadn't quite finished those last 7 minutes when the deadline came, but Fox took what he had, anyway, and published the movie. Then they tell Lucas to finish, and some time after RotJ was released, they put out those last 7 minutes, charging the viewers more money to see it.

And the entire issue could be avoided if someone said, "Give me more time."

Twilight_Warrior wrote:

Marth8880 wrote:Why? And you really expect a large-scale game developer to release content that its employees worked hard on, for a salary, paid by that large-scale game developer, to be completely free of charge?

Moving_Target wrote:if an ending DLC was preplanned

People already paid for the game, why charge more for stuff that was going to be put in the game since before the release? I realize there's a whole deadline process, but if the ending DLC is preplanned, that makes two preplanned DLCs, an extra $20. Delay the game for Pete's sake, don't wring the fanbase for money by selling them an incomplete game, then charging them for things you wanted to put in, but "didn't have time."

Because fans never complain when games are delayed.

Marth8880 wrote:

Twilight_Warrior wrote:

Marth8880 wrote:Why? And you really expect a large-scale game developer to release content that its employees worked hard on, for a salary, paid by that large-scale game developer, to be completely free of charge?

Moving_Target wrote:if an ending DLC was preplanned

People already paid for the game, why charge more for stuff that was going to be put in the game since before the release? I realize there's a whole deadline process, but if the ending DLC is preplanned, that makes two preplanned DLCs, an extra $20. Delay the game for Pete's sake, don't wring the fanbase for money by selling them an incomplete game, then charging them for things you wanted to put in, but "didn't have time."

Because fans never complain when games are delayed.

Because fans never complain when games are unfinished at release.

It's a catch-22. And EA chose the option where they got the most money.
Take a lesson from Valve. Delay games, but be nice to the consumer. They'll hate you before the release, then love you after. Which is MUCH better than the other way around.

Twilight_Warrior wrote:

Marth8880 wrote:

Twilight_Warrior wrote:

Marth8880 wrote:Why? And you really expect a large-scale game developer to release content that its employees worked hard on, for a salary, paid by that large-scale game developer, to be completely free of charge?

Moving_Target wrote:if an ending DLC was preplanned

People already paid for the game, why charge more for stuff that was going to be put in the game since before the release? I realize there's a whole deadline process, but if the ending DLC is preplanned, that makes two preplanned DLCs, an extra $20. Delay the game for Pete's sake, don't wring the fanbase for money by selling them an incomplete game, then charging them for things you wanted to put in, but "didn't have time."

Because fans never complain when games are delayed.

Because fans never complain when games are unfinished at release.

It's a catch-22. And EA chose the option where they got the most money.
Take a lesson from Valve. Delay games, but be nice to the consumer. They'll hate you before the release, then love you after. Which is MUCH better than the other way around.

If everybody is so hot-headed about the issue, they shouldn't complain, but instead find a job in the field and work their way up to change things. That's how the world works.


And the game is finished; people just don't agree with the endings they were given.

Marth8880 wrote: And the game is finished; people just don't agree with the endings they were given.

Every time you have responded, you have forgotten that the main point of this discussion is "if this DLC was preplanned."