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theITfactor wrote:GHWT as of now, I'm still bitter about the complete lack of features in Rock Band Wii.

Rock Band Wii seemed to be just an afterthought port, That's probably why it came out so late. I'm sure Rock Band 2 will be a "real" game with the full (or at least a more complete) set of features.

But Harmonix will still screw us out of DLC in some way shape or form. Yeah, they may say, "O hey you can download RB2 tracks" well that's fine and dandy, but what about RB songs? and the RB DLC? and no I'm not buying the pants-on-head retarded idea of predetermined tracks for $29.99 that's really a stand alone version of RB. NO Harmonix I'm not buying into that.

I'm sticking with GHWT because VV actually cares for Wii owners. and GHWT has the stuff i want.

The Wii can't push the polys and effects that the other next-gen systems can, which is why it got pre-rendered videos. GH: WT is gonna end up like GH3 and GH:Aerosmith -- a PS2 port for the Wii. In reality the Wii just wasn't built for this sort of stuff -- DLC, post processing effects, etc. And that's fine for what it does, but you can't expect every game ported to the Wii to match up with the PS3 and 360.

Just so ya'll know I don't actually think Neversoft sucks, I've actually recommended to a few friends who own a Wii to go with GH: World Tour for a number of reasons:

1-Character/Instrument customization - yeah, it'll look last-gen, but you can customize
2-Wii DLC - not sure how this will work, let alone how many will fit on the Wii's tiny flash memory, but some DLC is better than no DLC
3-Odds are better that GH3/GH:A guitars will work with World Tour


As for me, I'm getting a 360 in Sept/Oct for Rock Band 2 and all the DLC. . . And Halo 3.

Sortof-off sortof-on topic: Does anyone else think Neversoft over-charts songs? I've been playing the guitar for 10+ years, and tons of their songs seem over-charted in the sense that there's 3 button chords on easy chords, strange progressions just for upping the difficulty, etc. Guitar Hero 3 didn't do terrible at this, but GH Aerosmith wreaks of it, and from the gameplay shown, so does World Tour.

They do. I think it's just for a challenge.

Gamespot wrote:Wii storage has been an issue as much for fans as it has been for gamemakers. In April, Rock Band creators Harmonix noted that the reason why the Wii version of its popular rhythm game would not support downloadable content was because of its lack of adequate storage. "Come on Nintendo, we need a hard drive," bemoaned design director Rob Kay. "That's what we want. The whole problem is there's nowhere to store it."

That's why no DLC for Wii.

Yeah, no RB DLC, GHWT WILL have DLC for Wii, because VV cares about Wii owners. It's be confirmed, no denying it.

I would say it's much more about actually swaying folks to buy GHWT than Rock Band 2 than Vicarious Visions giving a hoot. VV to me comes off as one of the "It's all about the money" developers in everything they do. Frankly from the get-go they knew they needed some sort of edge, and while the song creator looks powerful, what people want is DLC. So you give it to the Wii and boom, they have the edge on the Wii.

But you realize what the DLC will likely be, don't you? We're not talking big, licensed songs here. We're talking songs made with the song creator, because then they just need a 100-500kb file containing the song chart and pointing to all the different sound effects already built into game. Then the game does all the real-time processing of effects and whatnot, saving file space. I bet you good money you're not looking at a single master track. What you're getting is song creator stuff, whether by the community or released as 'official', that's likely what it'll be to fit on the Wii.

No, Wii owners ARE actually getting the DLC 360 and PS3 owners are getting, you use Wii points.

I just don't see how you'll be able to fit more than 10 songs or so and still keep VC games, saves, etc. At 20-60mb a pop it just seems like it's gonna be tough to fit much in. I suppose you can pick and choose or move stuff to a flash card when not using it, but still.

shacknews.com wrote:http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52809
It is not yet known if the content refers to new songs or just the sharing of user-created tracks, the latter being a functionality all editions of World Tour are known to include. PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 Guitar Hero entries have used downloadable content to add new songs to the game, some of which are sold and some of which are given away.

I'm not calling you a liar or anything. I hope you're right, but I've never seen a source that mentions licensed songs for the Wii.

Still, if a Wii was the only console I had I'd get GHWT for it too, even if it was only user-created stuff.

SD cards, the Wii can support up to 4Gb cards. and GHWT can read the songs right off the card unlike VC's and Wiiware.

Bumped for a really good reason -- to get you all up to date on the two games again.

Wii owners, if you're wondering what GH: World Tour looks like, you can compare it to the PS3 version below

http://kotaku.com/5056627/new-guitar-he ... you-decide

In other news:
-Both games will handle instruments from opposite games (I.E. Rock Band guitars in GH:WT or vice versa) or older Guitar Hero guitars (X360 and PS3 only). It's unconfirmed whether that's the case for the Wii.
-Wii users will have DLC in Rock Band 2. This will be 100% genuine just-like-next-gen DLC. Same song, nothing clipped out.


I'm still getting the Rock Band 2 bundle, then buying a bunch of DLC. But knowing that the guitars/instruments are cross-compatible I'll probably buy GH:WT sometime down the road too.

Teancum wrote:Bumped for a really good reason -- to get you all up to date on the two games again.

Wii owners, if you're wondering what GH: World Tour looks like, you can compare it to the PS3 version below

http://kotaku.com/5056627/new-guitar-he ... you-decide

In other news:
-Both games will handle instruments from opposite games (I.E. Rock Band guitars in GH:WT or vice versa) or older Guitar Hero guitars (X360 and PS3 only). It's unconfirmed whether that's the case for the Wii.
-Wii users will have DLC in Rock Band 2. This will be 100% genuine just-like-next-gen DLC. Same song, nothing clipped out.


I'm still getting the Rock Band 2 bundle, then buying a bunch of DLC. But knowing that the guitars/instruments are cross-compatible I'll probably buy GH:WT sometime down the road too.

Wow. Just a little difference between the two... I'm a GH fan, Rock Band is a knockoff. Don't know that I'll get either though.

tsurugi13 wrote:Wow. Just a little difference between the two... I'm a GH fan, Rock Band is a knockoff. Don't know that I'll get either though.

You realize the the folks who make Rock Band made Guitar Hero until they sold the franchise, right?

Wow RB2 supports DLC for wii now? Wow. It's confirmed that the Wii is the only console that does have cross game instrument compatibility.

Source? Last I heard it was in the dark on the subject. If that's the case I want to add it to Wikipedia.

*EDIT*

Another plus for Rock Band -- AC/DC is temporarily signed as exclusive to RB.

http://weblogs.variety.com/the_cut_scen ... xclus.html

AC/DC is now exclusive to "Rock Band" for "a term." No idea how long that term is. But just as Aerosmith is exclusive to "Guitar Hero" for a while after its eponymous game, MTV has a similar deal with AC/DC. That deal has resulted in this expansion pack and also the inclusion of "Let There Be Rock" in "Rock Band 2." No word on whether there will be future AC/DC songs for the "Rock Band" platform, either on discs or available to download, as part of the exclusive deal.

In Guitar Hero's defense it has two exclusives at the moment: Aerosmith and Metallica. I'm a little disappointed in that I wanted my Enter Sandman in Rock Band 2, but I can borrow Guitar Hero: Aerosmith if I need to, so no big deal for me.

I think guitar hero/rock band/I've realized they're the same thing needs pink floyd to be truly good. Something like money or comfortably numb or even one of these days would really be AWESOME.

Wait what are you asking for Tean?

And isn't Van Halen exclusive too? And possibly the Eagles? I think exclusives are lame.

Yeah exclusives are lame. Harmonix got sucker punched because MTV made the exclusive deal with AC/DC. On the other hand, Activision and Neversoft have been bragging about exclusive artists, how they have 10x the staff working on the game, and a bunch of other garbage. The head of Activision has released a lot of idiotic statements inparticular. That's my real reason for hating Guitar Hero World Tour so much. They not only say they have a better product, but they brag and gloat and whatnot. I say they need to put their game where their mouth is.

Van Halen and The Eagles aren't exclusive as far as I know. Maybe some of the tracks are, but not the bands.

I'll still get GH: WT, but not until I'm Rock Band'd out --which will be awhile considering the amount of DLC-- and then I'm only getting the game itself, no instruments.

I'd get both if i had a 360/PS3. Since i have a Wii. Well that's all i need to say. I just remember in like a Game Informer or some where official saying that Van Halen and The Eagles were GH exclusive. Mainly because it's rumored for Van Halen to get a GH: Van Halen like Aerosmith.