This is an ALPHA of Mars! For the information, please read the readme, because it took me like 15 minutes to make the MARS logo.

New features since the last release:
- Craters
- Cliffs
- An ocean

BAD NEWS!
* Clone Wars crashes!

>:(

But GCW works!

<:)

http://files.filefront.com//;7458803;;/

Unfortunately, I'll have to vote "a little bad." I realize this is just an alpha, but no map this uncomplete should be released. However here are some ways to make it better:
-Add more unit classes: They don't have to be real, make your own custom units.
- The terrain blend tool is your friend, right now the cliffs look jagged and unrealistic and the rest of the map is flat.
-add more objects. I understand Mars is a bleak world, but this is downright boring.
-add a sky. there are several tuts on this just use the search function
-one of the rebel's cps is floating above a crater, making it uncapturable. "There's yer problem!"

That's all I can think of right now. I'd be glad to help with anything; just ask.

its NOW one of the worsest maps i ever played, flying objects, untextured water, so please fix the bugs an make it better! You need More objects!!!! Maybe a tunnel unter the earth or something like that would it make a nice map! But please, it needs more work, cause its a nice idea!

I'm gonna say this ONCE. You need to have more of an Idea for a map a good map isn't just a week's worth of work and releasing alpha's isn't such a good Idea either. If you want a map that opens people's eyes work on it for at least 2 weeks to 1 month and then post a WIP. That's just my opinion.

-Add more unit classes: They don't have to be real, make your own custom units.

I tried. It crashes on this map - No matter what.

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- The terrain blend tool is your friend, right now the cliffs look jagged and unrealistic and the rest of the map is flat.

I'm doing MARS here, Mars isn't supposed to be 'happy easy-to-come-and-go' craters here.

-add more objects. I understand Mars is a bleak world, but this is downright boring.

Gimme some ideas then! All I can add is the CIS base, which isn't going well.

-add a sky. there are several tuts on this just use the search function

Like I said before, it doesn't work for me. I folllowed the tut, I replaced it with Naboo's, cleaned it, munged it, wasn't any different.

-one of the rebel's cps is floating above a crater, making it uncapturable. "There's yer problem!"

As said before, can't fix it.

Maybe a tunnel unter the earth or something like that would it make a nice map!

Good idea, I'll try it once I figure it out.

just a week's worth of work and releasing alpha's

I've been working on it for longer than a week, dude. You should know, I believe you download the other.

THE REASON I RELEASED IT AS IS IS BECAUSE I'M NO TEANCUM, I DON'T HAVE A IT-HAS-TO-LOOK-LIKE-PANDEMIC MADE IT STANDARDS, I CAN ACCEPT SLIGHTLY BARREN MAPS, AND I CAN'T IMPROVE IT, OKAY? IF YOU WANNA WHINE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE PANDEMIC MADE IT, FINE, NOT MY PROBLEM! I RELEASED IT IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO ENJOY IT! ANYBODY WANNA IMPROVE IT? BE MY GUEST, SEND ME A PM, I'LL SEND YOU THE SOURCE.

There. Now if you guys hate it so darn much, play the original BETA, which didn't have any goddarned craters see how fun THAT is!

Ummm... Mars has very smooth terrain.

And what do you mean you can't lower the cp? Middle click.

And we're not complaining about the fact that it doesn't look like Pandemic made it, we're complaining because it is nowhere near ready for release, and because you just dropped it halfway through, which you seem to do a lot.

Many of your "un-fixable" problems are very basic things that all of us had to learn how to do, and you could too if you would just spend a little time on your projects, instead of just whirring along in fourth gear and dropping everything the minute you hit a minor bump.

Many of your "un-fixable" problems are very basic things that all of us had to learn how to do, and you could too if you would just spend a little time on your projects, instead of just whirring along in fourth gear and dropping everything the minute you hit a minor bump.

YOU GUYS THINK IT'S SO DARN EASY DO YOU? Hey, I haven't been modding since the Mod Tools were out? I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE A DARN OBJECT UNTIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO! And my mouse has only the two buttons. The wheel doesn't work.

And I'm only whining because I get treated like crap in real life and online. It's the wheel of treating me like crap. I'm an outcast everywhere I go.

I sent you a PM on the Solar Battlefront boards regarding this issue.

But anyway...

People aren't expecting you to be Teancum! They're expecting you to not release so many freaking things at once, not to rush, and take your time! All these bugs can be completely fixed, they're extremely easy to, by the way. Take some time to read the freaking ZE guide in the docs. You can take care of everything if you know what to do. But it doesn't seem like you are...

And the entire statement you made added salt to the wound! You're not listening to our advice, although it may seem like we're criticizing you at this point. The reason it seems like it's criticism is because you never listened to what we said early on, and you're still insistent on taking a few weeks to work on something, and releasing it prematurely! I believe that most of us have had it with your ignorance to our advice.

We don't hate it, we'd give it positive comments, but again, you never listened to our friendly advice early on. You just ignored it. And then you get offended when we criticize it when you ignored us first.

I don't need to say any more, I've just about had it now...

Unless this is ignored, of course...

EDIT: And I can see where this ignorance came from, reality! Perk up them ears and listen!

Maybe you wouldn't feel like you're an outcast because of this ignorance!

You're never truly an outcast at this age, it's all in your mind. People might treat you like crap, but tell them to step off. It might be a jerky thing to do, but being nice to people who treat you like crap doesn't pay off. It's like feeding mean dogs: they'll bite you back later for more food.

I know from personal experience, mostly throughout my life, that being nice to jerks doesn't pay off.

- EP-782

Hey man, I feel ya...
OFF-TOPIC: Check your PM inbox.

Bf2 Master, don't complain about you being a newbie I started making SWBF2 maps in about January and I have 2 maps growing and getting better, I made countless maps before that as like test maps I didn't gp around rleasing WIPs of every one of those.

Sorry if I sounded like a jerk just then but I had to say that

Jup. We don't ask of you to be like Teancum, as you put it, but like uhm... Elmo!:D and not just cos hes really fluffy and all. But he was a newbie modder too, learned and learned and made awesome things in the progres!

You got lots of ideas by the looks of it, and pretty good ones too. But you should just pick one to stick your time in, and make something awesome out of it too Quality vs quantity

And modding takes lots of time as you probably know. Thats why I don't mod

Just dont go releasing stuff too soon, people won't like it. Play with the modtools a bit to find out how stuff works and release when you got a good map

I'd say you could make sweet stuff, seeing how much you did and released lately give your attention to one project, and you'll do great.

Feel free to ignore my blattering if you disagree

The_Emperor out.

Ugh... typing... from.. Wii... Arm.. not functioning.... anymore.,,

as you put it, but like uhm... Elmo! and not just cos hes really fluffy and all. But he was a newbie modder too, learned and learned and made awesome things in the progres!

Funny, I was just talking to and getting advice from him. And he explained it to me! So now I know exactly what to do!

BF2-Master wrote:

as you put it, but like uhm... Elmo! and not just cos hes really fluffy and all. But he was a newbie modder too, learned and learned and made awesome things in the progres!

Funny, I was just talking to and getting advice from him. And he explained it to me! So now I know exactly what to do!

Yea, focus on 1 at a time,even if that means not working on a project with me.

BF2-Master wrote:

-Add more unit classes: They don't have to be real, make your own custom units.

I tried. It crashes on this map - No matter what.

[

- The terrain blend tool is your friend, right now the cliffs look jagged and unrealistic and the rest of the map is flat.

I'm doing MARS here, Mars isn't supposed to be 'happy easy-to-come-and-go' craters here.

-add more objects. I understand Mars is a bleak world, but this is downright boring.

Gimme some ideas then! All I can add is the CIS base, which isn't going well.

-add a sky. there are several tuts on this just use the search function

Like I said before, it doesn't work for me. I folllowed the tut, I replaced it with Naboo's, cleaned it, munged it, wasn't any different.

-one of the rebel's cps is floating above a crater, making it uncapturable. "There's yer problem!"

As said before, can't fix it.

Maybe a tunnel unter the earth or something like that would it make a nice map!

Good idea, I'll try it once I figure it out.

just a week's worth of work and releasing alpha's

I've been working on it for longer than a week, dude. You should know, I believe you download the other.

THE REASON I RELEASED IT AS IS IS BECAUSE I'M NO TEANCUM, I DON'T HAVE A IT-HAS-TO-LOOK-LIKE-PANDEMIC MADE IT STANDARDS, I CAN ACCEPT SLIGHTLY BARREN MAPS, AND I CAN'T IMPROVE IT, OKAY? IF YOU WANNA WHINE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE PANDEMIC MADE IT, FINE, NOT MY PROBLEM! I RELEASED IT IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO ENJOY IT! ANYBODY WANNA IMPROVE IT? BE MY GUEST, SEND ME A PM, I'LL SEND YOU THE SOURCE.

There. Now if you guys hate it so darn much, play the original BETA, which didn't have any goddarned craters see how fun THAT is!

IF you didn't notice what I was saying I'll tell you again. I gave you a lot of simple basic things you could do to improve your map. Do I get thanked, no I get my head bitten off. I said i would be glad to help and I still am willing to help you.

well havnt been here for a while lol, no offense, but it looks like people hate ur map. u should pull this map off, and then just completely go psycho with the mod tools and get it finished, or at least get a beta goin. i tried doin the modtools for a while, and i no that they r hard xD! i didnt have enough time to work on it, but it seems that u might. just spend alot of time, wait let me rephrase that, alot MORE time on it and u will see the results eventually. but hey, it might even become a great map.

another saying you could cling to: Rome was not built in a day or Mars was not created in a year. take time, i remember in another tread(was it Mon Cal the Battle of Dac) someone said Its not like we are pointing a gun at your forehead to ask you to finish soon

Yeah lieutenantcoda is right, you should really teke more team and you maybe look for someone who can helps you with the problems^^

It looks to me like you have great ideas. If you want to stop modding for a little while and take a break then someone could use those ideas. i think this is a good map idea and that we should be more supportive of our fellow modders. constructive critisism is good, it lets us know what to fix. but we have to balnce it with POSITIVES focus on the positives of a map too. don't just sit there tearing people down because they made some mistakes, let them know what wen't wrong (don't point out too much, let other people say some too) and then tell them positives. if everyone was saying your maps were awful and that they needed to be sold as scrap metal how would you feel? I'm sorry about this BF2_Master I think it's a good idea.