Leibstandarte wrote:Russians are a primitive country, looking to seek and attack enemies. As you know Russia is the farthest thing away from a friend to Americans, if they could launch all their nukes at us they would.

I know a quite a few well-learned men and women who would beg to differ...

Leibstandarte wrote:Russians are a primitive country, looking to seek and attack enemies. As you know Russia is the farthest thing away from a friend to Americans, if they could launch all their nukes at us they would. Germany hated the Russians, as did the Russians hating the Germans, diplomacy is involved, i don't want to get into politics right now. Besides this is only a videogame, after the surrender of Germany the Germans were brought to Russian prisons. Most were killed brutally, others were tortured out of information. A 90 year old German, of the Leibstandarte S.S., wrote a book on how he was the bodyguard of Hitler. It teaches you the horrors of war. I suggest you read it, it will boost your knowledge on the brutal things men do in war.

Russians? Primitive? That isn't saying much about the U.S. seeing as it was neck in neck with Russia in the cold war. Also, Russia technically can launch it's nukes at the U.S., just doing so is a stupid thing to do, thus almost completely disproving your idea.

I was curious to know if any of you have this or have played it on wii. I was thinking about buying it (cause wii= my only system ), but I was wondering if anyone has any opinions on it.

Leibstandarte wrote:Russians are a primitive country, looking to seek and attack enemies. As you know Russia is the farthest thing away from a friend to Americans, if they could launch all their nukes at us they would.

Uh...cold war much? We're in the UN together now, so I'm pretty sure we're allies.

Hebes24 wrote:

Leibstandarte wrote:Russians are a primitive country, looking to seek and attack enemies. As you know Russia is the farthest thing away from a friend to Americans, if they could launch all their nukes at us they would.

Uh...cold war much? We're in the UN together now, so I'm pretty sure we're allies.

Sure, Russia doens't think much of the U.S. and vice versa, but that doesn't make either worse than the other.

Grev wrote:

Leibstandarte wrote:Russians are a primitive country, looking to seek and attack enemies. As you know Russia is the farthest thing away from a friend to Americans, if they could launch all their nukes at us they would. Germany hated the Russians, as did the Russians hating the Germans, diplomacy is involved, i don't want to get into politics right now. Besides this is only a videogame, after the surrender of Germany the Germans were brought to Russian prisons. Most were killed brutally, others were tortured out of information. A 90 year old German, of the Leibstandarte S.S., wrote a book on how he was the bodyguard of Hitler. It teaches you the horrors of war. I suggest you read it, it will boost your knowledge on the brutal things men do in war.

Russians? Primitive? That isn't saying much about the U.S. seeing as it was neck in neck with Russia in the cold war. Also, Russia technically can launch it's nukes at the U.S., just doing so is a stupid thing to do, thus almost completely disproving your idea.

Notice that is said that if they could, notice that i did not say that they could actually
send nukes over. That would be completely inaccurate, it is common sense, if a nuclear war started it would consume the world.

Uh...cold war much? We're in the UN together now, so I'm pretty sure we're allies.

That's what you think.

Besides no one knows what actually happened, you would have to be there in order to obtain that information, it's based off opinion and assumption. No other comment on this subject, were getting of subject.

Stay off politics/current events/off-topic, especially where it gets to the point of putting down other countries.

I'm thinking of getting this for the PS3. This is just what I heard but people say that world at war isn't as good as Call of Duty 4. I don't personally know because I dont have either yet, but do you think that's true?

From what I've heard, the shotgun is ridiculously overpowered, though I wouldn't know seeing as I don't have it.

I think people like CoD4 more simply due to the fact that it's modern combat as opposed to the overused WW2 setting. Me, I much rather fire an M-16/M-4 than some funky looking 1950s weapon.

JabbaLovesLava wrote:I think people like CoD4 more simply due to the fact that it's modern combat as opposed to the overused WW2 setting. Me, I much rather fire an M-16/M-4 than some funky looking 1940s weapon.

Fixed.

In addition, and I'm mostly going by period put into service, the M14 and M60 are from the 1950's, the MP44 and RPD are from the mid 1940's, the AK-47 is from the late 1940's, the M21, MP5, Skorpion, and Dragunov were weapons of the 1960's, and the M1911 was adopted in 1911. The M16A4 is a variant of the M16A1 first used in the 1960's, and the Mini-Uzi is a variant of the Uzi from the 1950's. Even the M4, while from the 1980's, is simply a recent carbine variant of the M16, and those variants date back to the early 70's. I get what you mean about modern combat, but I just felt like showing how old some of these weapons really are, since you mentioned the 1950's. *snickers*

Taivyx wrote:From what I've heard, the shotgun is ridiculously overpowered, though I wouldn't know seeing as I don't have it.

I haven't tried it in MP, but in SP it seems like a fairly balanced weapon. It's powerful, but as I recall it's range is fairly short and it has a low rate of fire.

I got this game on Friday and it is great, I'm not even half way through the singleplayer campaign and I am already sucked into the story. As for multiplayer, FFA(Free for All) and TDM(Team Deathmatch) are my favourite modes.

@Shotgun being overpowered: I don't really notice it, because i only ever play on hardcore servers.

MercuryNoodles wrote:

JabbaLovesLava wrote:I think people like CoD4 more simply due to the fact that it's modern combat as opposed to the overused WW2 setting. Me, I much rather fire an M-16/M-4 than some funky looking 1940s weapon.

Fixed.

Epic fail.

That's why people should get enough rest...

@ L:
Your the first One since GT is alive how uses a Hitler based Username in this Forum.For me this really sucks.Hopefully i dont see much posts from you here.Sorry to flame you but alone from your Username i dont like you.You phailed massive.Youre a Nerd.
@ Mods: If my post cause a instaban for me ,i accept it gladly.

hey i loved this game love the end of the russian campaign that rocked...shame i cant play multiplayer as i can only play it on my laptop and my internet is a wireless (usb pen like thing) and i kep getting connection interrupted (epic phail really)

AlexSecura wrote:@ L:
Your the first One since GT is alive how uses a Hitler based Username in this Forum.For me this really sucks.Hopefully i dont see much posts from you here.Sorry to flame you but alone from your Username i dont like you.You phailed massive.Youre a Nerd.

truly seconded

but back ontopic: i heard it would play videos when loading but it cant load them fast enough so that it loads very long..

That user was found out to be a second account, and deleted. The person in question was given a warning.

Anyways, the only thing that would make me want to get this would be Zombie mode, but I have Left 4 Dead for that.

It's been a little while but not quite a month yet. That being said I wanted to take the opprotunity to comment. I have this game on the 360 but I don't have live. So in terms of SP only, I actually found COD5 much more entertaining than COD4. I found the gameplay to be a lot more intense (even if it got ridiculous at times like the level at the Reichstag and the sniper at Stalingrad).

Grev wrote:

GangsterJawa wrote:

Leibstandarte wrote:

Grev wrote:Ugh, I hate the steryotypical Motherland thing the Russians say.

A). They never say that, never have.
B). Comrade? Also, not really something common in Russia.

This is not stereotypical, because the Germans and the Russians were known for their barbaric ways of killing their prisoners. The Germans were known for saying "for the fatherland", it was a diverse concept for the Russians, for they were long enemies and despised each other. It is not common in modern day because both countries have changed, as the rest of the world has. Therefore, the creators of WaW were historically correct, you must know much about World War II and World History in order to know about these things.

Grev's quote had nothing to do with the barbaric ways of killing prisoners. And, I'm sorry, but:

Grev wrote:A). They never say that, never have.

Sure, they don't say it now, but as far as the quote is concerned, he is correct, they also didn't say it then.
And don't double post (Sorry if I'm junior moderating), use the Edit function.

I sure don't remember anything about barbaric ways of killing enemies. Guns were, well, common in that time. Don't see how that is super barbaric though. And I while you will see that flame the games dark undertones later in this post, no where did I see anything about barbaric killing in the game, which is what we were talking about. And Russians were not "long enemies" of the gemans, I think you would have been just as upset if you had a peace agreement and the side you were neutral with began attacking. This actually spurred the hate. But you'd need to know about World War II and World History in order to know about these things.

This is really bugging me so I'm going to reply. I'm not going to make political commentary, just state historical facts.

As a matter of fact, the motherland idea configured greatly into Soviet propaganda especially during WW2. Additionally, the term comrade was pushed by the Soviet government to create the mentality of complete social equality of all people since comrade denotes an individual of the same status as yourself.

The Eastern front of WW2 is considered by far the most barbaric warfare ever waged. Prisoners were taken by hundreds of thousands (especially during the initial blitkrieg campaign surrounded pockets of Soviets). Because of the sheer brutality of the Nazi and Soviet Communist ideologies, and because of their complete polar opposite natures, both sides were willing to go far beyond what might be considered 'humane' by most people. I hate to say it, but WaW actually understates the extent of the hatred the Germans and Soviets had for each other. The Germans regarded the Russians and other Easter Europeans as racially inferior. As a result, Germans regularly executed prisoners of war and civilians. Massacres were a commonplace thing. The Russians on their part, acted largely out of hate and revenge, WAW actually captures this pretty accurately. And because both sides were so uncompromisingly committed to their ideology and so passionately nationalistic, they both carried the 'no retreat, no surrender' mentality, which is why they would stubbornly hang on to territories even if it meant suicide.

The Germans and Russians were indeed longtime enemies. Remember WW1? Yeah, there was still a lot of bitter feelings over that. Germany in WW1 brutally punished the Russian army until the newly established Bolsheviks agreed to a peace treaty. But that led to the loss of literally half of the land they had possessed between Moscow and Berlin. And like I said earlier, the Germans simply had a racial problem with the Russians. The hate was not spurred by the breaking of the Nazi-Soviet pact. That was almost garanteed from the beginning. Both Stalin and Hitler were trying to buy time and cover their behinds so they could achieve some other objective in the meantime. For Hitler, that was invading France. For Stalin, that was mobilization. The hate was there, but it was not unleashed just yet.

Here is a quote from a history book about the Eastern Front

His [the Soviet personnel] chances of survival were slim. "After being interrogated who was our commander, the number of our unit, etc., we were put behind barbed wire, kept without food or water. Then we were made to walk for three days. Jews, Communists, and Commisars, if discovered, were stripped to the waist, lined up and shot."

The Easter front was basically comprised of a general mass mutual hatred powered by totalitarian sentiment. It didn't help that both sides were being run by power-hungry nutcases.

If you get the chance, I would recommend skimming through this (online) book and looking at some pictures and captions. They're gruesome and not for the squeamish. It's a very accurate portrayal of the Eastern Front but very astonishing.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/511986/Hitler ... hotographs