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Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:58 pm
by Nova Hawk
CommanderFixer wrote:I wonder if they'll kill Rex and Ahsoka in this season. They have to go sooner or later.
I agree with you on Ashoka but not Rex. Rex kicks butt. He wouldn't go down without a fight.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:29 pm
by CommanderFixer
Okay... maybe not Rex. But it's obvious Ahsoka kicks the bucket in this one. Bad dreams, Aurra Sing... Yeah, she's gonna die. :maulsaber: >=) I bet this season is aimed towards the older audiences/older kids.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:55 pm
by kinetosimpetus
Yoda wrote:Always in motion the future is, and many possible futures there are.
This season gonna mess with our heads?

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:35 am
by Nova Hawk
kinetosimpetus wrote:
Yoda wrote:Always in motion the future is, and many possible futures there are.
This season gonna mess with our heads?
I hope so... Inception anyway? :P

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:49 am
by Alexrd
Twilight_Warrior wrote:Alright, so Travis' canon conflicts with the Clone Wars canon because she depicted the planet of Mandalore as a warrior's planet. Like every Mandalorian was a member of Death Watch. Mainly a nomadic, farming people at home, but filled with a warrior's spirit with many Mandalorians working as bounty hunters, mercenaries, and other similar jobs across the galaxy.
The Clone Wars depicted Mandalore as a peace-striing planet that wants to put their fighting spirit of the past aside.
No. If you watch the trilogy carefully, you will notice they mention there were many wars in the past, and only recently the mandalorian people opted for a peaceful way. It makes sense, because wars between clans bring nothing good for their society. Also, the whole recent peaceful way is one of the things the Death Watch is fighting against.

As for Ventress, she doesn't die in the micro-series.

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CommanderFixer wrote:Okay... maybe not Rex. But it's obvious Ahsoka kicks the bucket in this one. Bad dreams, Aurra Sing... Yeah, she's gonna die.
How did you reach that conclusion? Ahsoka doesn't need to die just because she doesn't appear in RotS. And if she did die, don't you think it would be one more motive for a mention in RotS? As for Rex, that's one character that has no reason to die. He could very well be retconned in RotS. He belongs to the 501st.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:09 am
by giftheck
I wouldn't surprised if Rex killed Ashoka in the Jedi Temple in a retcon of Episode III after Order 66 is issued.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:03 am
by CommanderFixer
I came to that conclusion because Aurra sneaks behind her, then she says she is having bad dreams, and Yoda says that it is a premonition. That's a lousy conclusion, though. Maybe Rex could live. Ahsoka probably won't die in this season, but her premonitions will mean something bad is going to happen. It's probably about late 21 BBY- Early 20 BBY now, so we have probably about 2 more seasons worth. If they do have Rex kill Ahsoka, that would surely prove clones follow orders without question. But in Episode 3, Anakin wasn't a Jedi Master, so why is he a Jedi master in TCW? Could they have demoted him for maybe having a hand in Ahsoka's death, if she died at all? Lucas said that she didn't appear in Ep. 3 for a reason, even though her character wasn't developed, then. It's probable that they might make a Special Edition Prequel Trilogy with all those retcons. I mean, if Lucasfilm released at least two OT special editions, that could set up reason for a Special Edition Prequel trilogy.... As long as they view it profitable. I don't see where Ahsoka could end up in a retconned Episode 3, though. Rex, however, I could. I wonder if he'll upgrade to Phase II armor in TCW.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:14 am
by Teancum
Yep -- my guess is Ashoka will live, and will become a full-fledged knight. That's much easier to make her "forgettable" as far as the movies go. Anakin trained her, now she's off doing her own thing in the galaxy and so is he. If she was dead, that would be something that would have seriously affected him, and like Alerd said, she'd need more of a mention in the movie at that point.

And Anakin wasn't a master. You didn't have to be a master to have a padawan. Obi-Wan had just become a knight when he was given Anakin as his padawan.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:38 am
by CommanderFixer
That solves my concerns there, but.... Darth Maul's brother? You have got to be kidding me! :faint: :funny2: That is the most unoriginal idea ever!!!!!!!!!!!!! If Cad Bane becomes somebody's worst nightmare, I'd chuckle. I believe Montross/Boba Fett had that spot. My fellow friends on Xfire have speculated that Ahsoka might go Dark Side. That'd be entertaining. And Anakin might become whiny because he's forced to kill her in that scenerio.A renewal to Anakin's whiny personality in Episode 3. :roll:

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:46 am
by Teancum
I'm glad to see that Ventress will likely die this season. She's a great character, but its time to put someone else in the spotlight. As far as EU goes she's in pretty much everything and anything out there that's Clone Wars-related.

*edit*
From the trailer it looks like the nightsisters might try to resurrect her.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:50 am
by CommanderFixer
I don't know, Teancum. I'm pretty sure she's injured badly at some point during the Battle of Boz Pity, then she returns during that battle, which took place in 19 BBY. She was wounded in that battle,then recovered, left the battle, and ordered her pilot to take her as far away from the war as possible. Technically, she was MIA for the rest of the war, which didn't last too long after that.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:01 am
by Twilight_Warrior
Alexrd wrote:
Twilight_Warrior wrote:Alright, so Travis' canon conflicts with the Clone Wars canon because she depicted the planet of Mandalore as a warrior's planet. Like every Mandalorian was a member of Death Watch. Mainly a nomadic, farming people at home, but filled with a warrior's spirit with many Mandalorians working as bounty hunters, mercenaries, and other similar jobs across the galaxy.
The Clone Wars depicted Mandalore as a peace-striing planet that wants to put their fighting spirit of the past aside.
No. If you watch the trilogy carefully, you will notice they mention there were many wars in the past, and only recently the mandalorian people opted for a peaceful way. It makes sense, because wars between clans bring nothing good for their society. Also, the whole recent peaceful way is one of the things the Death Watch is fighting against.
And if you read the books, you notice that Mandalore is described throughout the entirety of the clone wars AND AFTER Order 66 as a planet of warrior/farmer tribes with cities made of the bones of the mythosaurs, no skyscrapers, mainly small huts and single story shops, and everyone goes around in their iconic mandalorian armor, helmet included. Their one and only leader and form of government whatsoever was Mandalore, not some Duchess in a palace with her Advisors.

Back on topic: I'm pretty sure Rex is gonna survive, too. He's only a Captain, not a commander, and he leads the Torrent Company of the 501st Legion. Neyo can still be the commander on a whole.

As for Ventress, well like I said, it wouldn't be the first time the series overwrote something we previously thought to be true. "Well, they SAID she disappeared." Well, Lucas wants it his way, now, and that chick is getting the axe.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:06 am
by Teancum
CommanderFixer wrote:I don't know, Teancum. I'm pretty sure she's injured badly at some point during the Battle of Boz Pity, then she returns during that battle, which took place in 19 BBY. She was wounded in that battle,then recovered, left the battle, and ordered her pilot to take her as far away from the war as possible. Technically, she was MIA for the rest of the war, which didn't last too long after that.
Yeah, but you don't know when Palpatine orders him to kill her yet. Maybe she causes trouble after resurfacing. Nobody said the season takes place all prior to 19bby.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:25 am
by Alexrd
Teancum wrote:Yep -- my guess is Ashoka will live, and will become a full-fledged knight.
If that happens (I seriously hope not), It won't be under Anakin.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:26 am
by CommanderFixer
Well, most of the clones are still using Phase 1 armor, except the more "elite" clones, who wear Phase II-ish armor. That raises my question, would they have Rex upgrade to Phase II, even though everyone recognizes him in Phase I armor? It's probably about 20 BBY, like I said, maybe 21 BBY, but we're obviously later in the Clone Wars. Ventress could die, but the Nightsisters might take her in. Runaway, Ventress, runaway. How come we only see Grievous and Ventress separate? Can't they ever be in an episode together? :?

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:21 pm
by redgroupclan
Half of the reason I've paid attention to the Clone Wars is because I've been waiting for Ashoka to die.
I've invested too much time in the series for her to live now!

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:53 am
by CommanderFixer
Agreed. Ahsoka must die. Sorry, girls, but Ahsoka might just get the.... Saber would be more appropriate.. :maulsaber: Anyways, she's the icon for the girls, so they can't take her off just yet. Lucasfilm wants money, and they get that by appealing to not only boys and men, but little kids, girls and women. Because of that, there has to be a very feminine(And rash character) amongst the major cast. Ahsoka probably won't die just yet, but soon enough,however. Just sleep through this season, and wait for the end. :wink: Maybe she will die, but then TCW's marketing will die, and Star Wars will revert back to a white dwarf star, as it was before, and buying Star Wars merchandise will be much easier, at the little kid's loss of interest.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:22 pm
by Alexrd
CommanderFixer wrote:Agreed. Ahsoka must die.
Right... :roll:

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:41 pm
by EraOfDesann
That was one heck of a trailer, however Savage Opress has got to be the most on the nose name for a SW villain yet.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:11 pm
by Eggman
EraOfDesann wrote:That was one heck of a trailer, however Savage Opress has got to be the most on the nose name for a SW villain yet.
Yeah, that one got a bit of an eye-roll from me. Sounds like somebody's creative juices were running a bit low. :P