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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:51 pm
by Krun
Lord-Bandu wrote:What were the ion shots like?

Were they like the normal automatic fast lasers? or charged? or single shot?


After reading about the Defender im makin it the fastest ship with the strongest lasers . HOwerver , I read that the defender could be quite unstable at times so im gonna make it have the lowest health.

Im not sute if its possible to give a flyer 3 weapons .... if not il leave out the missiles.
The Ion Cannons were very similiar to lasers except they were a little larger and light blue. The Ion Cannons drained energy and allowed you to disable an enemy ship without destroying it. Yeah I loved XWA too :D

Edit:
Sorry missed Ace's response

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:37 pm
by -_-
I'll get to you asap Bandu :wink:

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:22 pm
by Lord-Bandu
PvtParts wrote:nice work Bandu.


you can count on seeing your work in some of my maps this is great.





and so far as balance -

slower than a tie but a bit faster than bomber.

but i would say dont lower health to much...

ion cannons would be okay, but i think it would be fine with just 2 proton torpedoes and 4 lasers.

realistically the only unbalancing factors are speed/agility, and armor.

it could have the greatest weapons in the world, bombs, ion, laser, whatever homing 1 hit kill missles. but it its speed is hindered it is still vulnerable.

what im getting at is i would lean towards realism not balancing the game

"slower than a tie but a bit faster than bomber."


All references show that this was the fastest , most agile fighter the imps had. Im am makin it this way . Iv also read that it was abit unstable due to all this power and the only way I can signify this is by having it have lower health , which helps balance it.

If 3 weapons arnt possible then it will just have lasers and ion lasers. This makes it seem different from the others ,which is a bonus imo.


It will be lame if people start makin it slower than a normal Tie.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:46 pm
by minilogoguy18
just do like psych0fred did with the N-1, compile it to a .lvl file so that they cant mess with any the raw files and all they have to do is call the .lvl file in the .lua and make a spawner for it, they can use it but not mess with it in any way.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:54 pm
by Lord-Bandu
Muhahaha :twisted:

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:50 am
by Chris165
great, just like x-wing alliace


well, i think you can change your 4 lasercannons to 2 ioncannons like infantry do from rifles to pistols right?

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:08 am
by sh4d0wl0rd
Teancum wrote:I thought the TIE Phantom was the only ship that could cloak.
Oops, I mixed it up somehow.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:28 am
by t3tine
WOW! :shock: sooooo nice! the b-wing and now the tie denfender...i've waited for this moment a long time ago ^^

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:30 am
by DeathRow
That... is .... Incredible!
It is a great model :D

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:36 am
by Lord-Bandu
Chris165 wrote:great, just like x-wing alliace


well, i think you can change your 4 lasercannons to 2 ioncannons like infantry do from rifles to pistols right?
not sure . It might be different for flyers.

Iv got -_- working on it , if he cant do it , i doubt any1 can.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:18 am
by Murdocr
Chris165 wrote:great, just like x-wing alliace


well, i think you can change your 4 lasercannons to 2 ioncannons like infantry do from rifles to pistols right?
the reason this may not be possible is that the buttons you use to change weapons is taken by change position in vehicles.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:41 pm
by yankeefan05
If possible, there could be another button to change weapons.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:11 pm
by -_-
Lord-Bandu wrote:
Chris165 wrote:Iv got -_- working on it , if he cant do it , i doubt any1 can.
I take that as a compliment :D

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:23 pm
by Syth
Man, the deffender is suposed the B-wings equal but its not. I dont care about other games, the deffender is very big, 3x an intorceptor's size. So it needs 3x the engine power to just be even EQUAL the intorceptor (which it doesnt). It looks realy bulky so makeing it slower is just a purely logical thing. Being faster then an intorceptor is tarded.

Look, this ship is big. Making it faster then an intorceptor and having less armor is as sensical as making the Y-wing=A-wing.

The ship looks pretty awsome, but knowing how its going to fight i dont care.
You probally have a strong opinion on this Lord Bandu, but id stronly suggest making the deffender a fighter that is equal to the B-wing and makes sense, rather then make it nonsense and have no equal.

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:00 am
by Lord-Bandu
It seems the guys at LA/Starwars.com disagree with you , and tbh Im gonna keep with LA/Starwars.com for my Star Wars information thanks. If you dont like it , dont fly it.

Have you thought that in space it doesnt matter what size the vehicle is? weight means nothin with no gravity about.


BTW , who says im makin it so it has no equal? Iv stressed many times that im balancing it with the other fighters!

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:13 am
by Prisoner_of_the_Ram
Syth wrote:Man, the deffender is suposed the B-wings equal but its not. I dont care about other games, the deffender is very big, 3x an intorceptor's size. So it needs 3x the engine power to just be even EQUAL the intorceptor (which it doesnt). It looks realy bulky so makeing it slower is just a purely logical thing. Being faster then an intorceptor is tarded.

Look, this ship is big. Making it faster then an intorceptor and having less armor is as sensical as making the Y-wing=A-wing.

The ship looks pretty awsome, but knowing how its going to fight i dont care.
You probally have a strong opinion on this Lord Bandu, but id stronly suggest making the deffender a fighter that is equal to the B-wing and makes sense, rather then make it nonsense and have no equal.
Well lets put it this way... The Interceptor travelled at 110 MGLT, the Defender at 144. The B-Wing only went at 91... The B-Wing and the Defender had identical shield power, but the Defender's recharge was twice as good. In fact, the only thing about the Defender that was worse than the B-Wing was the hull itself, but any good pilot could keep their ship shielded all the time anyway.

The Defender was superior to the B-Wing overall, and the Interceptor was no competition at all. My source is straight from the nice people at Lucasarts who may know a little more than you on this subject.

Owned.

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:15 pm
by Syth
I know about the people who made the deffender and its stastics,

At first glance at the ship any one would asume that its slower, better armor and better fire power. But the creaters of it decied to get all jumpy so made it over powered. It has sheilds, 6 lasers, 2 ions, 2 launchers, hyper drive, and enough engine power to surpass almost any ship. That is a case of EU over powerment. I was just suggesting makeing it how it looks to make it even, instead of how the creaters of it made it, which made no sense.

And the volume of an object in space does matter, thats why an SD cant do the same thing as an A-wing. :twisted:

But sense you want to be like in its originated games can you atleast do this.
Make it a cross between an intorceptor and TIE fighter. Does it make sense at all to have a ship that size faster then an interceptor? no, who ever made was just jumpy that they where making something that would be in star wars history so they made it n00by.

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:25 pm
by CovertSniper
Guys! :evil: Why do you insist on getting hung up on all the technical details?!? Bandu is going to make the way he's going to make it, deal with it! :evil:

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:37 pm
by Ace_Azzameen_5
Syth, you're noly taking in the size of the engines, not the quality. They squeezed a lot into that thing, but it costs twenty times as much.

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:42 pm
by Lord-Bandu
"And the volume of an object in space does matter, thats why an SD cant do the same thing as an A-wing. "

in star wars maybe but in real life volume and shape means nothing.That was my point.

The fact of the matter is , its gonna be balanced but be faster than any other ship. It wont have tracking missiles but will be harder to hit itself.