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Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:16 pm
by THEWULFMAN
Since it was never explained how they can talk in real time across the galaxy. I came up with my own theoretically possible solution, but that's for a different thread.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:31 pm
by Eaol
1) "Not all real-world signals and the like are limited to the speed of light. false."
Have you ever heard of gravity? Electrodynamic forces? Gravity operates at a speed near infinity on our scale. Planetary systems, barring electrodynamic forces, cannot maintain stability if gravity operated at the speed of light - Earth would be orbiting the spot Sol was in 8 minutes ago, and not the center of gravity. This would cause a torque which would fling the Earth out of the solar system pretty quickly. It is unfortunate that science in the 20th and early 21st centuries has become so dogmatic in replacing observation and scientific experiment with mathematics, conjecture based off of math, and pure assumptions with little evidence to back it up.
The speed of light. Well, light itself is an electromagnetic wave. It is essentially an "electric ripple". It is a wave through the neutrino aether. It exhibits as much "wave-particle duality" as sound waves in air or a ripple in a pool.
The neutrino aether. Neutrinos are composed of subtrons and form electric dipoles in an electric field. Each dipole rotates through 360 degrees per cycle, tying the speed of light in a vacuum to the moment of inertia of the neutrinos.
And when I said "electrical communication", I might have given off the false impression that I was referring to electrical currents. Although electrical currents do occur in space plasma, as is known, the electrical force is what I was referring to. The resonant structure of matter and "spooky action at a distance". Quantum interactions in matter are due to resonant electrical interactions between particles at a speed near infinity, once again to our scale. There is no such thing as disconnecting cause and effect or anything like that.
Anyway, yeah. Protagonists will always prevail (real spooky action at a distance? haha) in fiction. I am perfectly fine leaving this physics discussion as-is. Our walls of text are enough on the subject for now.
Speed of light
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:50 pm
by Twilight_Warrior
Eaol wrote:1) "Not all real-world signals and the like are limited to the speed of light. false."
Have you ever heard of gravity? Electrodynamic forces? Gravity operates at a speed near infinity on our scale. Planetary systems, barring electrodynamic forces, cannot maintain stability if gravity operated at the speed of light - Earth would be orbiting the spot Sol was in 8 minutes ago, and not the center of gravity. This would cause a torque which would fling the Earth out of the solar system pretty quickly. It is unfortunate that science in the 20th and early 21st centuries has become so dogmatic in replacing observation and scientific experiment with mathematics, conjecture based off of math, and pure assumptions with little evidence to back it up.
The speed of light. Well, light itself is an electromagnetic wave. It is essentially an "electric ripple". It is a wave through the neutrino aether. It exhibits as much "wave-particle duality" as sound waves in air or a ripple in a pool.
The neutrino aether. Neutrinos are composed of subtrons and form electric dipoles in an electric field. Each dipole rotates through 360 degrees per cycle, tying the speed of light in a vacuum to the moment of inertia of the neutrinos.
And when I said "electrical communication", I might have given off the false impression that I was referring to electrical currents. Although electrical currents do occur in space plasma, as is known, the electrical force is what I was referring to. The resonant structure of matter and "spooky action at a distance". Quantum interactions in matter are due to resonant electrical interactions between particles at a speed near infinity, once again to our scale. There is no such thing as disconnecting cause and effect or anything like that.
Anyway, yeah. Protagonists will always prevail (real spooky action at a distance? haha) in fiction. I am perfectly fine leaving this physics discussion as-is. Our walls of text are enough on the subject for now.
By "limited by the speed of light," I assumed you meant "at less than or equal to the speed of light." Which, unless you can give me some pretty resounding evidnece, all "signals and the like" ARE, in fact, travelling at less than or equal to the speed of light. Because, by definition, "signals and the like" are transmittable waves that can be sent, received, and deciphered for meaning. Waves = light. Light has a limited speed. You gave the example of gravity, but since when is gravity "signals and the like"?
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:55 pm
by Eaol
1) By "limited by the speed of light," I assumed you meant "at less than or equal to the speed of light." Which, unless you can give me some pretty resounding evidnece, all "signals and the like" ARE, in fact, travelling at less than or equal to the speed of light. Because, by definition, "signals and the like" are transmittable waves that can be sent, received, and deciphered for meaning. Waves = light. Light has a limited speed. You gave the example of gravity, but since when is gravity "signals and the like"?
True, true. You got me there.
You wouldn't consider "spooky action at a distance" usable in technology for real time communication, would you?
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:56 pm
by THEWULFMAN
Tachyons.
Theoretically possible
Nuff' said.
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:15 pm
by kinetosimpetus
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:19 pm
by Eaol
Well, we were referring to real-world science, but whatever. Back on subject, Season 4 looks like it might be good.
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:02 pm
by Jendo7
Just finished watching Season Two. This whole series is much better than I thought it would be, and adds so much back story detail to the saga. I can't wait for season 3 to be released on DVD, as I think I'm getting withdrawls.

Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:11 am
by THEWULFMAN
Season 3 on Blu-Ray and DVD Commercial
I always get the DVDs, as I have no Blu-Ray player. I espcially love the documentries and deleted scenes. Wait, what, the Deleted and Extended scenes are only on the Blu-Ray version...
I call bullcrap

Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:08 pm
by Cerfon Rournes
THEWULFMAN wrote:Season 3 on Blu-Ray and DVD Commercial
I always get the DVDs, as I have no Blu-Ray player. I espcially love the documentries and deleted scenes. Wait, what, the Deleted and Extended scenes are only on the Blu-Ray version...
I call bullcrap

Bullcrap indeed. It sucks when companys put out the, 'Good stuff' (Deleted and Extended scenes)
on Blu-Ray just so we have to pay more money to buy a Blu-Ray player.
Offtopic
The same goes for video games I feel. How come all the really great games (Or better versions of those games) come out for Xbox and not PC?
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:32 pm
by DarthEste01
offtopic:
how is the sound transmited in space without air? because we can hear the sounds of stars and galaxys,and the echos of the creation of the universe.
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:36 pm
by Twilight_Warrior
What does that have to do with anything?
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:43 pm
by kinetosimpetus
Offtopic

We hear music in the background, too. Where does that come from?!?
For some reason the people who make TV shows, games, and movies think that being able to hear music and sound effects makes it more enjoyable.
Re: Clone Wars Season 3
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:48 pm
by DarthEste01
Twilight_Warrior wrote:What does that have to do with anything?
nothing realy,i just have that doubt.
kinetosimpetus wrote:Offtopic We hear music in the background, too. Where does that come from?!?
i wastalking of the real universe.