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Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:40 pm
by SilvaDalek
Fluffy_the_ic wrote:Moving_Target wrote:I just watched the ending on youtube and I do have to say it's going to be interesting how they explain Starkiller is still alive. It's still possible to have a logical explanation, but his survival depends on vader.
Actually, you saying that sorta gave me an idea. Considering how Palps said that "he is now more powerful than ever," Vader may have brought him back to life again, thinking it would weaken him.

I doubt it, but it kind of makes sense to me.
Keep him from becoming one with the force?
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:45 pm
by giftheck
SilvaDalek wrote:Fluffy_the_ic wrote:Moving_Target wrote:I just watched the ending on youtube and I do have to say it's going to be interesting how they explain Starkiller is still alive. It's still possible to have a logical explanation, but his survival depends on vader.
Actually, you saying that sorta gave me an idea. Considering how Palps said that "he is now more powerful than ever," Vader may have brought him back to life again, thinking it would weaken him.

I doubt it, but it kind of makes sense to me.
Keep him from becoming one with the force?
That makes sense... in this, he's no longer a martyr for the Rebel Alliance's cause (although he still is a founding member).
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:30 pm
by Nova Hawk
Hey, does anybody have a link to view the TFU2 trailer? Cuz I found it on utube but it appears to have been taken down by copyright and the link on LA website doesn't work.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:49 pm
by Null_1138
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:50 pm
by DeathRow
Maybe Starkiller and Juno had a baby before he was on the Death Star, unreasonable I know.. it would break the canon but its just a thought.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:53 pm
by Twilight_Warrior
Well, on closer inspection of the picture given at the game's official site, he's got a robotic right shoulder and some more mechanical parts where his left pectoral muscle should be. Another Vader rebuild definately seems possible. Vader's obviously an influence in Galen's life, since Vader's voiceover had new dialouge in it. Of course, it could be parts modified from the old rebuild. Maybe we should make a new topic about TFU2 stuff, cuz this is clogging up all the other VGA posts.
EDIT: and sorry about my previous post. My computer lagged out of posting it and I left the computer for a while. When I came back, I refreshed, and it posted....3 pages later.... mah bad.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:31 pm
by Nova Hawk
I'm thinking the most likely explanation is that it's a clone. Because the Emperor did say he could be one of the greatest Sith that ever lived and so he could have taken some DNA from Starkiller and made a clone of him.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:32 pm
by RogueKnight
Twilight_Warrior wrote:Well, on closer inspection of the picture given at the game's official site, he's got a robotic right shoulder and some more mechanical parts where his left pectoral muscle should be.
Nope, it looks like that's just armor, and to back my speculation up, he used force lightning in the trailer, so it cant be robotic.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:31 pm
by Nihillo
Nova Hawk wrote:I'm thinking the most likely explanation is that it's a clone. Because the Emperor did say he could be one of the greatest Sith that ever lived and so he could have taken some DNA from Starkiller and made a clone of him.
The way you put it, it actually sounds reasonable, I mean, the whole "he's a clone" plot device is old and stupid, but you would expect Palpatine to clone such an important asset to his plans for later use, besides, Palpy
loved to use clones.
So, yes... <sighs deeply> he must be a clone.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:08 pm
by Lord Bardar
i don't want to go too far offtopic, but i did manage to find this link
http://kotaku.com/5425347/casting-direc ... evelopment
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:30 pm
by Twilight_Warrior
DarthRogueKnight wrote:Twilight_Warrior wrote:Well, on closer inspection of the picture given at the game's official site, he's got a robotic right shoulder and some more mechanical parts where his left pectoral muscle should be.
Nope, it looks like that's just armor, and to back my speculation up, he used force lightning in the trailer, so it cant be robotic.
Wookiepedia wrote:Approximately six months later, Starkiller awoke once more. As it turned out, Vader had rescued him, sending out a droid to recover his body, and brought him to be rebuilt on Vader's personal science vessel, the Empirical.
He had metallic parts in him the entire second half of the game. It doesn't just say "rebuilt" on wookiepedia. It's also in the novel AND ingame (i think only Xbox and PS3 versions though). So long as you have enough organic parts to channel the energy, you can still use force lightning.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:33 pm
by Maveritchell
That was posted a while ago in this thread (appx. page 10).
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:35 pm
by SilvaDalek
And if I remember correctly, you can still use force lightning even when you have metal replacement appendages with the costume unlocked for killing Vader instead of saving everyone.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:45 pm
by Darth_Squoobus
I'm surprised no-one said anything about the giant gorilla that tossed the rancor.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:59 pm
by Twilight_Warrior
Lol, that's cuz there's nothing we know about it. It might be a visual recreation of a monster from a novel, but noone has any idea what it could be. The best name anyone has for it right now is "Rancor Tosser."
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:01 pm
by SilvaDalek
The Rancor Tosser just doesn't seem that awesome...I mean in the previous game we took down a star destroyer and battled the emperor and vader...what more is there?
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:10 pm
by Dohnutt
SilvaDalek wrote:The graphics look amazing,
Cutscenes always look better than the game (well, nowadays, anyways) - especially when said cutscenes are used for world premieres.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:16 pm
by Lord Bardar
Dohnutt wrote:SilvaDalek wrote:The graphics look amazing,
Cutscenes always look better than the game (well, nowadays, anyways) - especially when said cutscenes are used for world premieres.
I believe this is the same case as with TOR; that's no cutscene, it's a trailer. A little movie. TFU's cutscenes are done in-game. Just a few more hours and we get the official trailer.
I'm surprised nobody here said anything about Yoda's voice being heard in the trailer. IMO plot device right there. All of them. Vader, Juno and Yoda all have something to do with the plot.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:33 pm
by Moving_Target
Lord Bardar wrote:Dohnutt wrote:SilvaDalek wrote:The graphics look amazing,
Cutscenes always look better than the game (well, nowadays, anyways) - especially when said cutscenes are used for world premieres.
I believe this is the same case as with TOR; that's no cutscene, it's a trailer. A little movie. TFU's cutscenes are done in-game. Just a few more hours and we get the official trailer.
I'm surprised nobody here said anything about Yoda's voice being heard in the trailer. IMO plot device right there. All of them. Vader, Juno and Yoda all have something to do with the plot.
Well, we're only a few years off from them being the same, cutscenes and in-game.
Also, the star destoryer part was more of a quick time event.
When watching the trailer the first time I was confused about Yoda's voice. I'm thinking is that Luke? Nah, wait maybe, Vader is talking. Then when Juno's voice came in and everything quelled I thought it was a bad Padme voice over, and thought it was Anakin. Nope, Starkiller.
So it will be interesting to see how Yoda fits into all of this.
Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:50 pm
by H_BOMB
Okay you guys, this may sound crazy but I think I have an idea on how Starkiller "survived".
Lucasarts has already done the "reconstruction" thing twice in TFU. First after he was thrown into space, and second (if you did Dark Side) when he was turned into that cyborg thingamajig. For Lucasarts to touch on that a third time... well, I don't think they're that stupid.
But here's my idea: during the trailer we (Or Starkiller) hear Yoda and Darth Vader, right? And if we assume the canonical things happened within the game and the movies, all three of them (Starkiller, Yoda, and Darth Vader) should be dead.
Sooooooooo, maybe when Starkiller died on the Death Star he was sent to this supposed Force "afterworld", and then he encounters Yoda and Vader's spirits and stuff. So what we see in the trailer is either one environment in this "afterworld" (that I just made up), or maybe the Force decides Starkiller should have another chance and rebirths him back into the galaxy.
Yeah, it sound pretty insane. But Star Wars is a very magical story at its roots, and it is The Force Unleashed.