I've got no complaints. I've got my main back, online play, new stages and new characters, and what looks like a 10+ hour story mode. It's certainly not going to be worse than Melee, and Melee is one of the greatest games Nintendo's made. Do the math.

So is the picture of the character roster that everyone is talking about the final unlocked roster, or is there a chance that there are more unlockable characters?

Probably no chance for new characters, but you never know, Taboo seems like he could be a character.

Rayquaza fight (first part is the cutscene on Dojo)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n7SzL1DP2bA

Looks very cool, the campaign fights are looking great!

Yeah, those boss battles look sick.

Look, can we just add *Spoilers* to the title, I haven't seen a single person in this thread that doesn't want to know everything.

The single player mode is going to be awesome

I love Fusion for finding that pic.

I love Fusion for finding that pic also.

Wait... Did Sakurai ever really say that there wouldn't be any clone characters? I'm certainly not letting my disappoint in the final roster ruin the game for me but all the fun in unlocking secret characters has sorta been sucked away by the fact that the majority of them are returning characters, many of which are still clones. I think from now on I'll be staying away from spoilers, otherwise most of the fun and discovery will be gone by the time I get my hands on the game.

Spoilers below! (Like anyone cares at this point)





Ganondorf could easily have his own move set. He and Captain Falcon are completely different characters. If he is still a clone then I'll be completely baffled because it'll make the developers look really lazy in relation to all the other extra stuff they managed to squeeze in. If they can do all of that then theoretically they could have completely done away with clone characters since the character roster is one of the most important aspects of the game, as Rekubot said. Honestly, I think clones are pretty pointless.

From the video Mav posted it looks like Wolf might not be a clone character, though his Up B looks very similar to Fire Fox. But if he is a clone then that's even more baffling than Ganondorf being a clone. They already have Fox and Falco, why add a third clone? I'll give the developers the benefit of the doubt and assume that either Wolf or Falco has a different move set. Three clones doesn't make sense. *recalls Mario, Luigi, and Dr.Mario*

I'd be less disappointed if the clones were newcomers. What I mean is Marth could have been a starter instead of Ike, Ness instead of Lucas, Toon Link as starter, Luigi as starter, etc. At least then the unlockables would have been new faces. Not sure why Sakurai thought it would be a good idea to have most of the unlockable characters in Brawl be the exact same ones from the previous installments. That's boring!




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The clones are now more like Luigi is to Mario, similar, but not the same.

For instance, Falco is a faster, yet weaker Fox, while Wolf is a slower, but more powerful Fox.

Ganondorf has his own unique Up+B attack now (spins in the air upwards), it's unknown what it does if it contacts another player, but it destroyed a target in his target test, unlike Falcon's Up+B

Toon Link is a lot like the old Link, so he's not *technically* a clone of SSBB Link

Same with Ness, he hasn't been changed in any way, while Lucas has new moves added to the old.

And has anyone seen Luigi's final? Hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyFNpyAede8 1:38

Lol. What is that from? Does Luigi do that in any specific game? I'm glad that even though he is a "clone" character his smash move is different than Mario's.

I don't think I've ever seen him do it before, but I'm going to call it the "Luigi Super Dance"

Witty, eh?

If you don't get it, look at the first letter in each word. If you still don't get it, good.


Oh, and Ganondorf's TT: (Note, all Target Tests are the same for each character, but there are five variations that the characters have to beat) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H9sZ7NvHh0

I get it. It is a fitting name for Luigi's smash.

That Mewtwo pic was proved fake yesterday. Someone linked to a deviantart page that was a CGI render of the same Mewtwo, minus the text and glow from the eyes.

EDIT: Here's the link: http://sukhoiaero.deviantart.com/art/Mewtwo-7541316

Sorry then, my sources lied.

Also, the theory about who A.M is is under debate, as someone translated one of the Japanese posts about it incorrectly >.>

EDIT: Nope, I was right, he is the A.M.

Edit 2: Lol, I can see that this was written by the guy who wrote FF7-10.



MAJOR SPOILERS


Ancient Minister, who is the Playable R.O.B, is taking orders from Ganondorf, who also commands Wario and Bowser. Ganondorf takes orders from Master Hand. Master Hand is a puppet controlled by Taboo. Taboo succeeds in turning all the smashers into trophies, but Dedede, Ness, and Luigi are all wearing a pendant that allows them to return. They revive all of the others. They face Taboo again, but the one who finally defeats him is Sonic.

Unknown if this is all, as it was on an 80% complete file.

Wow Crazy spoiler in that post, Fusion. Should've put that in Hide tags.

LOL @ Luigi's Final smash! Trippy, man....

Ya that was a big spoiler!

Anyways Luigi Final smash is sweet, reminds me of The Beatles.

I'm still holding out for mewtwo even though Bowser and Kirby are in (Which I'm glad of) I still want Mewtwo cuz I kick Diet Dr. Pepper with him.