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Well, I've been dealing with this problem for a while now. KCC's AI are the only thing keeping me from finishing the map. I've laid plans, I've setup barriers, I've redone planning and barriers.

The AI still run off edges, run into walls and basically refuse to follow what I've set.

My planning (blue dots are CPs):


I've tried setting the hud radii to 1 and it doesn't work. So I've set it to 0. It's helped but not by much.

Am I doing something wrong?

I still am not clear on which direction they're running from the back CP. You said they were running off the platform; is it more in the direction of the green arrow or more in the direction of the red arrow?

Grrr I made a post and it got lost in the web somewhere so if there ends up being two posts from me that's why.

Anyway can't really see the hubs but you may want to try putting in more hubs, like in the middle of the platform, then at the top of the ramp leading down, one in the middle of the ramp then on at the bottom. AI are a lot like little kids you have to tell them how to do things using really small words (short distances between hubs) in order to get them to do what you want.
That coupled with barriers should make them behave better.

speaking of that, how are the gazillion barriers coming along?

What FragMe said is sort've what I was leading towards. You need to put hubs close together; I was trying to figure out if the AI was maybe heading towards that hub in the center of the platform ring rather than heading for more logical hubs/CPs, simply because the illogical (and death-inducing) one is closer.

Put plainly, AI heads for the nearest hub/CP, sometimes to the exclusion of following paths.

I think the reason lowering the hubs' radii to 0 helped a little was because at 0 radius, a hub is basically nonexistant, and in those cases the AI just headed for the nearest CP.

So like FragMe said, more hubs.

In the red arrows direction.

Hmm... I've got around 5 hubs for every platform, I'll just keep on trying.

Just quickly played the map again (the joys of being a beta) and it doesn't make sense like you say. I spawned at CP2 and the nearest is CP1 just a short run across the the joining bridge and the AI just turn around and run the other way (not even towards the ramp) There isn't a invisible CP that way is there?

FragMe! wrote:Just quickly played the map again (the joys of being a beta) and it doesn't make sense like you say. I spawned at CP2 and the nearest is CP1 just a short run across the the joining bridge and the AI just turn around and run the other way (not even towards the ramp) There isn't a invisible CP that way is there?

No, there's nothing over there except a big building and a rainshadow region.

I would just quickly throw a rough barrier around that side, from ramp to ramp, of 4 barrier segments or so and see how they react to that.

Another thing you may try is rotate the spawn nodes 180 degrees from where they are now. Not sure if you know how so I'll type it anyway Change active layer to conquest or whatever. The select paths, go to CP2 and select a node.
Press X and using the middle button rotate the 180 from where they are now. I noticed when the AI spawn they all face the fall off edge. This may or may not do anything but it's worth a try.

FragMe! wrote:I would just quickly throw a rough barrier around that side, from ramp to ramp, of 4 barrier segments or so and see how they react to that.

Another thing you may try is rotate the spawn nodes 180 degrees from where they are now. Not sure if you know how so I'll type it anyway Change active layer to conquest or whatever. The select paths, go to CP2 and select a node.
Press X and using the middle button rotate the 180 from where they are now. I noticed when the AI spawn they all face the fall off edge. This may or may not do anything but it's worth a try.

I've already placed barriers around every platform and bridge on the map. They totally ignore them.

Make sure it's on the right layer. If it's not part of the layer you're using (or on the main layer) they'll ignore them.