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Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:48 am
by Darth_Spiderpig
Ahh, okay :mrgreen:

I've changed the ground to be more orange, but the lightning doesn't fit.
Try to make it like the pic :? :lol:

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MAP UPDATE (KORRIBAN: SITH ACADEMY):

I lost my files from my old Korriban map, but with my new PC mapping is much faster :mrgreen:

Here is my newest version of Korriban (the 4th one :shock:)
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That one looks kinda funny :lol:

Waiting comments/improvement suggestions (say what comes in your mind :mrgreen: ) :bdroid2:

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:00 am
by bobfinkl
My main 3 suggestions are; smooth out the terrain, use more than one ground texture, and well I don't know why you added this in the first place but remove the grass it's pointless and ugly. One last thing add WAY more cover it's pretty barren now, try adding some yavin walls all over some pillars geo rocks etcetera. But overall I think this is a huge improvement over the old one the lighting looks good and the reskins work good.

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:06 am
by Darth_Spiderpig
bobfinkl wrote:My main 3 suggestions are; smooth out the terrain
I will try, but it should look a bit loke a mountain(a small one :mrgreen:)
bobfinkl wrote:use more than one ground texture
will do
bobfinkl wrote: remove the grass
Why?
bobfinkl wrote:it's pointless and ugly
--Ah, ok :mrgreen:
bobfinkl wrote:try adding some yavin walls
Rogerroger, that was in my attention already
bobfinkl wrote:some pillars geo rocks
Have loads of them already
bobfinkl wrote:But overall I think this is a huge improvement over the old one the lighting looks good and the reskins work good.
Thank you, it's good to hear someone like it (because I'm waay not satisfied enough yet :P)

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:17 am
by kinetosimpetus
I think it looks great, but with a little too much orange in the lighting perhaps? or in the skins?

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:11 pm
by bobfinkl
The lighting looks fine to me, the skins don't matter an awful lot since this is a new era they most likely won't be used. And by Geo rocks I meant the smaller ones, the "bunker" rocks and all those "cliff" rocks are incredibly useful as cover and are something this map is lacking. Also by smoothing the terrain I meant where the player is it can look really bad from up close, but the mountains are fine as is since as far as I know they are more in the background.

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:38 pm
by mswf
May I give one advice for lighting?: (I know the lines are squigly, but it's the best I can do with a mouse)
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When choosing a primary colour, try to sty within the green area.
When choosing a secondary color, try to stay within the red area.
I'm not saying that you have to stay withing them, but they are fairly good guidelines for making realistic lighting. May I say that, in my opinion, the lighting looks a bit too saturated (= too much colour).
Other than that;
Scatter some objects around. If you'd then carefully use barriers and hintnodes, you'd make for a great gameplay.

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:41 pm
by Par3210
Grass did not appear much in Korriban but I have to agree this version looks absolutely sweet. Although where were clone troopers and droids in it? Even so I am adding the images to first posts. :thumbs:

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:58 pm
by Lord Bardar
that's no sky - it's mustard.

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:19 pm
by The_Emperor
Nice improvements, getting closer and closer to Korriban. Apart from what bobfinkl already wrote, it looks like some of the prop textures lost a lot of detail in contrast though. Did you colorize them, or did you use hue?

Great usage of stock props from different maps there, keep it up! :D

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:29 pm
by Nova Hawk
Nice improvement, I like the Clone Sharpshooter skin. :thumbs:

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:28 pm
by B-1Burt
Add some of those little rocks from Rhen-VAr the ones that are really small.(<Whoa redundant) Change up the terrain texture a little and you should be good to go for ground.

But the lighting and sky are not to my tastes, mostly because it's different from what it looked like in KotOR. If you've never played it, I suggest looking up some videos or playing it. But this is Your map, not Bio-Ware's, so do what you want. But because Korriban was such a distinct planet in KotOR, people are really picky about the sky and atmosphere in general. Hence the grass and sky complaints you've recieved. My advice...

The lighting is over saturated turn that down some for starters.
The sky on Korriban was less yellow and more of a really faint brick-red.
The terrain was a kind of, darker crimson9I sound like a crayon box.), this gave the apperance that the planet was darker than it actually was.
There were fallen statues, rocks, and various ruins all over the place. You've done well here, but I can't help but think a few more would go a long way.
Archeological(<Spelling?)Pits were dug everywhere, but being years after the Sith Empire, I can see where they would've filled back up.
Caves and tombs were everwhere, and putting a couple in for good measure doesn't hurt.
There was no plant life on Korriban.

Thems are suggetions, but I do kinda like your interpretation of korriban, definate improvement.

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:38 pm
by Fluffy_the_ic
Lord Bardar wrote:that's no sky - it's mustard.
No mixy with baking soda. :runaway:

Looks pretty good. I'll have to try this when it comes out. :)

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:42 am
by Darth_Spiderpig
wow, school takes much time :roll:

Lol, much comments and good improvement suggestions, let my reply to every single one :mrgreen: :

@Kinetosimpetus: too much orange? well, I like it as it is, I tried to make it like the one reference pic I have

@bobfink:
bobfinkl wrote:by smoothing the terrain I meant where the player is it can look really bad from up close
How do I do?
And thanks about the skins :P

@mswf: Thanks, this will be useful
Par3210 wrote:Grass did not appear much in Korriban
Didn't knew that, I have never seen any Korriban map, only one pic :mrgreen:

Lord Bardar wrote:that's no sky - it's mustard.
And? :P
The_Emperor wrote:Did you colorize them, or did you use hue?
I think I used the brush and two times skinning :oops:

@Nova Hawk: thanks, I also^^

@B1-Burt: As I have said, I never played any Korriban map, not even saw one. I try to make it to the satisfaction of you who know Korriban from KotOR, I make the map not for me (only), it is for GT gtpwn

@Fluffy: thanks, you make me glad :mrgreen:

So stay tuned, Update soon

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:44 am
by mswf
Thanks, it's very important you try not to go too high in that colour field, since it really hurts too much.

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:17 am
by Par3210
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[quote="Darth_Spiderpig"]wow, school takes much time :roll:

Lol, much comments and good improvement suggestions, let my reply to every single one :mrgreen: :

@Kinetosimpetus: too much orange? well, I like it as it is, I tried to make it like the one reference pic I have

@bobfink:
[quote="bobfinkl"]by smoothing the terrain I meant where the player is it can look really bad from up close[/quote]

How do I do?
And thanks about the skins :P

@mswf: Thanks, this will be useful

[quote="Par3210"]Grass did not appear much in Korriban [/quote]
Didn't knew that, I have never seen any Korriban map, only one pic :mrgreen:


[quote="Lord Bardar"]that's no sky - it's mustard.[/quote]

And? :P

[quote="The_Emperor"]Did you colorize them, or did you use hue?[/quote]

I think I used the brush and two times skinning :oops:

@Nova Hawk: thanks, I also^^

@B1-Burt: As I have said, I never played any Korriban map, not even saw one. I try to make it to the satisfaction of you who know Korriban from KotOR, I make the map not for me (only), it is for GT gtpwn

@Fluffy: thanks, you make me glad :mrgreen:

So stay tuned, Update soon[/quote]
Just for your info, I'm sending over the Bane, and also if you want I can get a few pictures of Korriban.
If you wanted grass you'd probrably want to make it dusty brown coloured so it fits in with the environment but personally I'd scrap it entirely. No offence. :thumbs:

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:47 am
by Darth_Spiderpig
Par3210 wrote: I'm sending over the Bane
supadupa dude (lol, The Bane) :thumbs:
Par3210 wrote:if you want I can get a few pictures of Korriban.
Would be cool, but I think the map itself is pretty much done. Altough afew references wouldn't be bad. :wink:

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:09 pm
by Par3210
Uploading now. Should be done in around 6 mins.

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:16 pm
by Darth_Spiderpig
:thumbs: Thanks again, Par :thumbs:

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:24 pm
by Par3210
Darn, I lost the link when I cloesd the tab accidentally!!!!! :x

Re: The Darth Bane Series, Map One - Apatros - Mining Colony

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:29 pm
by Darth_Spiderpig
Huh, not good. :(


But you will fix this :thumbs: :mrgreen: