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Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:01 am
by Anakin
i don't like:
So the SBDs
red B1
Katarn
the shild is too smal
red mandelorian
Teti Viba

i like

all others they are awesome and the ewok looks cute

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:17 am
by THEWULFMAN
Anakin wrote:i don't like:
So the SBDs
red B1
Katarn
the shild is too smal
red mandelorian
Teti Viba

Why dont you like them, you need to explain why.
Anakin wrote:the ewok looks cute
Dangit, you hit my soft spot.

I concur :plokoon:

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:41 pm
by RevanSithLord
Anakin wrote:i don't like:
So the SBDs
red B1
Katarn
the shild is too smal
red mandelorian
Teti Viba
To be frank, Anakin:
1. The SBD's, the Black and Red One and the Red/Yellow one was there in the DWB, but the Red/Yellow one was modified to be slightly different/unique than the other one. Search Google or Yahoo for pictures.
2. The Red camo'd B1 was in SWG. Thus why it's there. Search Google or Yahoo for pictures.
3. Katarn Armored Trooper is a trooper wearing armor based from an SWG armor set, thus why that's there. And it's also when I went into the DWB with that armor set, so that's why that's at that location. Though that armor-type/scheme was used on Kashyyyk by "Mort", it still fits in with the Endor surroundings. And not to mention one of my characters in SWG wore this armor to the DWB at one point, and that's the entire point that's there, really. Look on Wookieepedia for "Katarn Armor (Galactic Civil War)"
4. I disagree, the shield is just right on the proportions. To be fair, as long as it does its job, it doesn't matter what size it is.
5. The Red Mandalorian was in the DWB, thus why it's there. The whole point behind him being there. Search for "Death Watch Bloodguard".
6. Teti Viba is the "Death Watch Overlord" actually, during the GCW, and was in the DWB, thus, again, why he's there. Again, the whole point of him being there. You can check Wookieepedia for "Teti Viba"

I apologize, but the sides/skins are pretty much final. I'm sorry we cannot please everyone, but the map itself is loosely based (loosely based, but trying to reach the same feeling I had) on my experience in the DWB.

I am not attacking your opinion, I am just trying to explain "Why" those are the way they are.

Like THEWULFMAN, said, I would also appreciate it if you would explain why you do not like them? Though in the end these will be staying, I would really appreciate if you would say "Why" you do not like them. Though you don't necessarily have to have a reason, I am just curious.

However, there is a reason those are there. And there is a reason for why they will stay. I apologize.

Well, probably words AQT would say anyways. I think it's somewhat fair to explain the reasoning behind why the sides are the way they are since I helped. AQT not only did this project because he wanted to explore it and revisit it, but it's also from a vision that I originally tried to portray and failed at. And while I would have loved to convey the exact feelings I've had or the exact visuals I've witnessed in SWG, obviously there would be slight changes to compensate for gameplay balancing, such as map layout/side layout, etc.

It's mainly a personal vision to begin with, really. I personally think he pulled it off flawlessly. There's virtually nothing I personally would change. And I'm glad he's sharing the vision with everyone here at Gametoast. It really is a phenomenal map, in my opinion.

Note: I did not say you are required to like what we like, I was just curious, like THEWULFMAN, of why you didn't like them.

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:19 am
by Anakin
Maybe in TCW were such colored Droids/Clones but i don't like it

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:47 am
by THEWULFMAN
Anakin wrote:Maybe in TCW were such colored Droids/Clones but i don't like it

This map isn't set in TCW era, this is during GCW era. And you haven't said why you dont like the red mandalorians or Teti Veba?

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:54 am
by Fiodis
THEWULFMAN wrote:
Anakin wrote:Maybe in TCW were such colored Droids/Clones but i don't like it

This map isn't set in TCW era, this is during GCW era.
I think that's his point; he's saying that the units seem too TCW-ish color-wise.

And for the record, I disagree.

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:09 pm
by Anakin
So that's the point i don't like how he is looking. It's not because you did a worse job i simply don't like them

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:00 pm
by AQT
@Anakin: Hmm, you know what? Since I respect your opinion so much, I think I will make the colorful droid/Mandalorian skins less colorful by desaturating them completely. And what the hey, I think I will replace the Katarn armored trooper with your "RARC." It would fit sooooo perfectly! How does that sound? :D

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:44 pm
by sim-al2
AQT wrote:@Anakin: Hmm, you know what? Since I respect your opinion so much, I think I will make the colorful droid/Mandalorian skins less colorful by desaturating them completely. And what the hey, I think I will replace the Katarn armored trooper with your "RARC." It would fit sooooo perfectly! How does that sound? :D
I detect sarcasm... :shock:

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:16 pm
by RevanSithLord
sim-al2 wrote:
AQT wrote:@Anakin: Hmm, you know what? Since I respect your opinion so much, I think I will make the colorful droid/Mandalorian skins less colorful by desaturating them completely. And what the hey, I think I will replace the Katarn armored trooper with your "RARC." It would fit sooooo perfectly! How does that sound? :D
I detect sarcasm... :shock:
Captain, I am detecting large quantities of "win" in this sector.

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:07 am
by Lagomorphia
Anakin wrote:i don't like:
The SBDs
Red B1
Katarn Armoured Troopers (Or armored if you prefer)
The shield is too small
Red Mandalorian
Teti Viba
One thing I took far too long to learn (really, AQT and WULFMAN were probably on the point of sending assassins after me :P ) is that beta testing is about reporting issues, not preferences. That also applies to commenting on screenshots and gameplay videos; what goes in is what the creator wants to put there. Making suggestions gives ideas to the creator, but they'll only go in if the creator wants them in there, but just saying 'I don't like it' achieves nothing but using up guru's bandwidth. For example: I personally am not the number one fan of the new HUD colours in WULF's TCW, but many people like it and, most importantly, WULF does. I complained about it for weeks, and all I did was annoy WULF. A lot.

On a brighter note,
Loving the detail on the B1s. Are they new skins, or is my attention to detail really as bad as I think it is?

Also, are those Ewoks easier to kill now? I remember them neutralising over half the CPs in conquest and pairs taking out B2-RPs by keeping them permanently on the ground. :D A few of those ewoks could take over a Star Destroyer (now there's a map idea :P )

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:56 am
by RevanSithLord
Lagomorphia wrote: On a brighter note,
Loving the detail on the B1s. Are they new skins, or is my attention to detail really as bad as I think it is?

Also, are those Ewoks easier to kill now? I remember them neutralising over half the CPs in conquest and pairs taking out B2-RPs by keeping them permanently on the ground. :D A few of those ewoks could take over a Star Destroyer (now there's a map idea :P )
They're the same quality as they were in TEV/Last Version of DWB (I think), unless AQT did some details in secret to improve on them. :P Maybe AQT ninja'd on quality/detail? :o We'll never know. ;)

As for conquest, when I encountered the Ewoks, they didn't seem to neutralize over half the CPs or wipe out B2-RPs in pairs. :S Unless, again, Ninjas were involved. Ninjawoks?! :shock:

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:14 pm
by THEWULFMAN
Lagomorphia wrote:(really, AQT and WULFMAN were probably on the point of sending assassins after me)

Who's to say I didnt send my Ninjewoks after you?ImageImage Image

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:58 am
by AQT
Here's the last update: The Storm Commando, Captain Archer:
Hidden/Spoiler:
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Special thanks to Cerfon Rournes for helping me with his visor.

For the campaign, Archer is equipped with an E-11b rifle, which has two firing modes: Blaster and mortar rounds. He is also armed with detpacks. In addition, he has an Active/Use "weapon" to work with panels and whatnot. Also, when playing, be on the lookout for Imperial-symbol-shaped items that will grant Archer extra lives. He has regenerative shielding, but it doesn't take much damage to lower, though.

I am going to upload and release this map now/soon.

EDIT:
Here's the release thread: http://www.gametoast.com/forums/viewtop ... 35&t=26372

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:51 am
by Darth_Spiderpig
Yay, I'll be d/ling as soon as I get home! :thumbs:

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:37 pm
by The_Emperor
That is one sexy Storm Commando.

Re: Endor: Death Watch Bunker

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:44 pm
by AQT
Thanks, Emperor. :funny2: Since the map is already released, I think I'll lock this topic now.