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Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:08 am
by Jawaraider
revanshan wrote:
Jawaraider wrote:
Aman/Pinguin wrote:Try using a Hex editor to find the tga names
Not really sure how to do that... Anyways, I updated the cultist to fit more with the color of the other ones:
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Ill fix the script rolls on the cape and the color of the metal areas and it will be quite good I think.
This reskin is awesome.


About the AT-ST -> Sentinel, I said it won't be enough with just a reskin, it needs a new vehicle model. Anyway, that reskin is good, I just found one error, look at the sentinel, it's green, not metallic.
Now hear this, I know an AT-ST prototipe which appears in one mod I know which is more similar to the sentinel than the AT-ST. You know the "mod 123" ? , then check out Hoth in the Clone Wars, there you'll see it. I know that other mods have it but I don't know their names.


I don't have enough time to be in this forum, so I'll think about this stuff during this next days, in the mean time I have something for you:

How are Tyranids going to be implemented in the mod?

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Genestealers (Tyranids)
Ive been looking for the 123 source files for ages but I can't seem to find them. I know about the vehicle you mentioned and if you have a link please post it.
And Taivyx is right, I don't think it will have tyraninds because of the difficulty of making them.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:40 am
by Grev
About your skin, if you are using gimp, use the blend tool. Look at the face. I can see a skin tone change that looks kind of rectangluar.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:05 am
by Aman/Pinguin
maybe you guys mean the AT-XT or AT-PT? (click the names for pictures)
revanshan wrote:Anyway, that reskin is good, I just found one error, look at the sentinel, it's green, not metallic.
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I used the EXACT same color like the one in the original picture.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:59 am
by Jawaraider
Grev wrote:About your skin, if you are using gimp, use the blend tool. Look at the face. I can see a skin tone change that looks kind of rectangluar.
Fixed it, I tought it was a natural part of the skin.
Aman/Pinguin wrote:maybe you guys mean the AT-XT or AT-PT? (click the names for pictures)
revanshan wrote:Anyway, that reskin is good, I just found one error, look at the sentinel, it's green, not metallic.
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I used the EXACT same color like the one in the original picture.
Maybe he means the camo spots? Doesn't matter, both in DOW and tabletop people use their own color schemes so theres no "right" color I think.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:03 pm
by Aman/Pinguin
For necrons i can get better pics...later
Necron Phantoms would be awesome! But would of course need a new model...you strongly need a modeler at this mod... :?
and ok i will work on the greenish parts
and i think you meant AT-PT? AT-RT is this one: http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/exp ... _86292.jpg

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:56 pm
by Jawaraider
Necrons wouldn't really be so difficult, I was planning to use magnaguards and/or Grievous. And the tyranid wampa thing was a good idea, will try it.
And yeah, I really need a modeller for this. I was planning to release version 1.2 with shipped stuff only and try hiring some modeler for version 2... That one will also have accurate weapon/ unit stats and be more balanced.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:01 pm
by Aman/Pinguin
Jawaraider wrote:Necrons wouldn't really be so difficult, I was planning to use magnaguards and/or Grievous.
Ah didn't think of them...that would make a Phantom alot easier as well.
Good idea. :thumbs: If you need skinhelp I will try my best. :P

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:04 pm
by Jawaraider
Aman/Pinguin wrote:
Jawaraider wrote:Necrons wouldn't really be so difficult, I was planning to use magnaguards and/or Grievous.
Ah didn't think of them...that would make a Phantom alot easier as well.
Good idea. :thumbs: If you need skinhelp I will try my best. :P
Feel free to make one, mine turned ou wierd,
revanshan wrote:And I want to remember at least once: mele weps for everyone.

Now: heroes:
Many of the heroes are difficult because of the high level of detail, most likely they will only be in v2.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:02 am
by The_Emperor
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Hey sweet, I didn't see that one till just now. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:30 am
by Jawaraider
The_Emperor wrote:
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Hey sweet, I didn't see that one till just now. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
Yeah, the orks are an important part of WH40k. But they look too fat for orks really. Was planning to make a gretchin of Yoda but it didn't work out, too small nose.

Anyways, the necrons are getting along:
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Not sure why the white spots are there, but just ignore them.
For a weapon I was planning to use the mortar launcher but I can't find the texture for some reason.

Another idea I had was to use different skeletons for units to make them look less identical. But the last time I tried it crashed thoug.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:02 pm
by Aman/Pinguin
Jawaraider wrote: Image
Not sure why the white spots are there, but just ignore them.
For a weapon I was planning to use the mortar launcher but I can't find the texture for some reason.
NICE!

White spots? just make them black at the skin ô.o
And for the skeletons: don't do that, nearly all skeletons look wierd at the wrong models.
Btw do you have xfire?

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:46 pm
by Jawaraider
Aman/Pinguin wrote:
Jawaraider wrote: Image
Not sure why the white spots are there, but just ignore them.
For a weapon I was planning to use the mortar launcher but I can't find the texture for some reason.
NICE!

White spots? just make them black at the skin ô.o
And for the skeletons: don't do that, nearly all skeletons look wierd at the wrong models.
Btw do you have xfire?
I fixed them, appearently I used a strange brush that didn't work well when I saved.
And you're right, skeletons didn't work very well.
And I don't have xfire Im afraid.

Edit: I just tried some modeling.I had to download loads of programs but none of them can export the model as a msh file to be used ingame so theres not really a point. But if anyone knows how to do this, could anyone just remove the ear-like things on the grievous model? It would look more like a necron then, and Im completely useless at this kind of thing.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:04 pm
by Jawaraider
Will take it into account, but the dreadnought will be impossible without custom models.
I think the cloone transport could make a good IG Valkyrie ship, the cis aat can be an eldar grav tank of some sort, the rebel speeder from bf1 can be an sm combat speeder, and so on.
I can't really make any maps cause zeroeditor doesn't work with vista, but im sure som corouscant street/city assets (were they released?) could make a good cityfight map.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:11 pm
by Aman/Pinguin
revanshan could i suggest you use the hide commands next time you show that many pictures?
It's very annoying to scroll that long...and its hard for people with slow internet.


Jawa are you going to use the caped grievous as necron lord?
And if youre going to add the Essence of the Nightbringer, that would be very easy! we could just scale up the emperor alot...

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:06 am
by Jawaraider
Aman/Pinguin wrote:revanshan could i suggest you use the hide commands next time you show that many pictures?
It's very annoying to scroll that long...and its hard for people with slow internet.


Jawa are you going to use the caped grievous as necron lord?
And if youre going to add the Essence of the Nightbringer, that would be very easy! we could just scale up the emperor alot...
Grievous / Magnaguars necrons: Image
Not sure wich one is the best for what, I am making a pariah from the deathstargunner model, I think it will turn out good.
And the emperror thing souunds good but last time I scaled something the game just crashed.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:02 am
by Jawaraider
Yeah, but it would look better without those things at the ears, Ithink it is possible to remove them, I managed to open the model in a modeler program, but the tools were confising and its impossible to convert it back to msh format. And I think the grievous model uses special animation that makes it impossible to use guns, at least it crashed when I tried to give him a rifle.

And the magnaguard doesn't look much like a necron because the "face" is hard to skin, it's not just one big piece, it's many of them, spread arount the tga when you open it.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:15 am
by Aman/Pinguin
I totally forgot about grievous' animations...
Anyways the necronlord uses a Staff of Light, not a gun! http://wiki.reliccommunity.com/Necron_L ... Crusade%29

But that would be hard / impossible without new animations :/

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:29 am
by Jawaraider
Aman/Pinguin wrote:I totally forgot about grievous' animations...
Anyways the necronlord uses a Staff of Light, not a gun! http://wiki.reliccommunity.com/Necron_L ... Crusade%29

But that would be hard / impossible without new animations :/
I said gun beause I tried him as a standard rifleman, but for the staff, isn't there a two-sided vibrosword out? It would be ok for this version at least.

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:38 am
by Aman/Pinguin
Jawaraider wrote:
Aman/Pinguin wrote:I totally forgot about grievous' animations...
Anyways the necronlord uses a Staff of Light, not a gun! http://wiki.reliccommunity.com/Necron_L ... Crusade%29

But that would be hard / impossible without new animations :/
I said gun beause I tried him as a standard rifleman, but for the staff, isn't there a two-sided vibrosword out? It would be ok for this version at least.
You have to keep his animations. Would look wierd with the magnastaff

Re: Battlefront 40 000 WIP

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:15 am
by Jawaraider
Propably. But I got a new idea for tau, I cauld use a scaled SBD for a battlesuit thing. I thnik one of them really looked like an SBD but I can't remember wich.