V1.7-UTAPAU ATTACK

yankeefan05 · Post by **yankeefan05** » Thu May 25, 2006 11:09 pm

Well...We all like some unit in SWBF2 (doesnt need to be droidekas). I guess he just likes thme a lot more than normal.

Droideka88 · Post by **Droideka88** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:15 am

RevanSithLord wrote:Hey, it's not his fault he likes droidekas. I myself love droidekas. The crab-like form. Like a portable turret if-you-will. Very cool. But let's not get too off-topic here. Yes more droidekas in this map would be nice. Look at the lots of Droidekas in ROTS when they surround Kenobi. Im sure there were thousands of Droidekas on Utapau at that exact moment. Where is ROTS without Droidekas anyway?

I thank you.

It's really easy. George didn't have time (3 year deadline right?) to animate the complex droidekas anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if he used better effort for the special editions.

Look at ROTS. By far this movie represents so few droidekas that I'm sick and tired of having to see spam loads of Battle Droids and apparently (should've never happen!!!!!) spam loads of SBDs. Good job George. :evil:

What's even sick is how in Utapau (with Kenobi), there's four Magnaguards battling Kenobi but only 3 DROIDEKAS watching. Pitiful.

Way to leave the other droids out. Dwarf Spider Droid, Hailfire Droid, I hope you all recall this right?

Again sorry if this is going to upset the majority but I had to state what I've seen from the movies.

Wadi · Post by **Wadi** » Fri May 26, 2006 5:41 am

ROTS IS ONLY A MOVIE, DROIDEKA88!

George Lucas decided that making a good film was primary to pleasing lots of nerds. Really, it takes very sad people to sit there watching the big dramatic duel between Obi and grevious, for example, and say (that's not right, the droidekas should be attacking).

But let's say no more about it here, this is getting dragged offtopic. Back to Utapau...so yeah, my main note about it is still lower the unit count.

Squirrel7Hunter · Post by **Squirrel7Hunter** » Fri May 26, 2006 6:08 am

ok. droidika 88, there were supose to be 10 droidikas in my map but I forgot to raise
this AddWalkerType(0, 2) -- special -> droidekas and i'm not lying.

yes. I understand everyone like there own certain unit but u have now told me 3 times in 3 different posts to add more droidikas not counting your last 2 posts. dont worry, I am going back to the old posts to see what everyone wrote

Droideka88 · Post by **Droideka88** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:59 am

Squirrel7Hunter wrote:ok. droidika 88, there were supose to be 10 droidikas in my map but I forgot to raise
this AddWalkerType(0, 2) -- special -> droidekas and i'm not lying.

yes. I understand everyone like there own certain unit but u have now told me 3 times in 3 different posts to add more droidikas not counting your last 2 posts. dont worry, I am going back to the old posts to see what everyone wrote

...I see. I'll leave this thread alone for now. I was aware if your next version would include it but it seems your bisu so you can't always reply back and forth.

But if you ever need a Shadow Trooper skin you can use mine...

valiant · Post by **valiant** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:02 pm

Droideka:
10-20 Droidekas is totally unrealistic. You would have had many more regular droids and SBDS than droidekas. The units are overpower as it is, and adding more only makes things worse. STOP talking about the stupid things! I like them, but you are obsessed. There is no need for the CIS to become uber powerful.

Anyway squirrel, keep up the great work! Can't wait to see the next version.

(GT)superfobio · Post by **(GT)superfobio** » Fri May 26, 2006 1:03 pm

Wadi wrote:Here is my feedback:

Overall, good. I like the setup, but there are one or two points which could be improved on:

- I think spider walkers would be useful here, to counter the AT-TE's. They would also add a whole new dimension to the game, as I just love seeing those things in the distance frying everyone who tries to attack them.

- You defintely need less troops on the field at any one time. A challenge is one thing, but even as Obi-Wan I found it virtually impossible to stay alive for more than a minute. Plus, it looks kind of sloppy when there are just troops all over the place.

- I think you should stick to the engineer having the shotugn and the commander having the chaingun, although I do LOVE what you have done with the chaingun. The thing is, the Commander now has a fusion cutter and the engineer hasn't, and that ain't right.

- Possibly (and this is ony a possibly) have some LAAT's spawning from a Venator (or at least a hangar) above the sinkhole? Add in some gunships for the CIS and some turrets and it would give this map a whole enw dimension.

- When you fall, you hit a floor. Now, this is fine for a regular soldier, as you die anyway due to the distance. As a Jedi, however, you don't. And then you're stuck down there. Either lose the floor or (now this would be interesting) do it up to look like the bottom of the Utapau sinkhole and put in a way back up...maybe a series of ledges with which a skilled jedi can force jump from one to the other, making his way back to the fight.

In short, I currently give this map about 7/10, but I think it has the potential to defintely become one of the ultimate BF2 maps.

i agree with him except i like the amount of troops and i stayed alive as obi-wan the whole game

Droideka88 · Post by **Droideka88** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:43 pm

valiant wrote:Droideka:
10-20 Droidekas is totally unrealistic.

Are you blinded by only relying on what the movies show? Seriously I could be sarcastic and say 10-20 Homing Spider Droids or SBDs is unrealistic too but you know what?

There's nothing unrealistic about that at all. ANything is possible. Haven't you forgotten that Battlefront was made to allow players to re-experience the battlefield by playing whatever they like? Why else do you think many prefer BF1.

There was no limit for any unit at all. I know that BF1 had gameplay issues but at least in the end it allowed players to play the battle differently instead of always playing it by George's way.

You would have had many more regular droids and SBDS than droidekas.

At least you didn't say Magnaguards or else it would be obvious to tell you're lost. The number of SBDs would be just as much as droidekas if George has re-thought his concept of how to make a droid super. Look if BF3 comes out, Pandemic better upgrade the SBD the way it was supposed to be.....unlike the movies versions where LF nerfed the droids severely.

The units are overpower as it is, and adding more only makes things worse.

If they are overpowered, then why don't you or Pandemic try to "balance" them. I don't think its that hard as long as you modify their odf files. And adding more only makes it worse for the AI but the real players.

STOP talking about the stupid things!

What stupid thing? I could complain about how your Utapau maps hype the clones but do nothing for the CIS. Nothing.

I like them, but you are obsessed. There is no need for the CIS to become uber powerful.

And there is no need to hype the Clones (which you did for some of your Utapau maps) or give them additional numbers of their special units. I trust Hunter will fix this issue.

car_gussy! · Post by **car_gussy!** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:01 pm

Droideka88, you remnd me of a guy here who wouldn't stop requesting SPDs in space and specific Bdroids. He eventually got banned. Your behaviour is like his, so I recomend that if you don't wanna end up like him, you'll stop bugging us about droidekas.

PLZ...

Droideka88 · Post by **Droideka88** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:09 pm

car_gussy! wrote:Droideka88, you remnd me of a guy here who wouldn't stop requesting SPDs in space and specific Bdroids. He eventually got banned. Your behaviour is like his, so I recomend that if you don't wanna end up like him, you'll stop bugging us about droidekas.

PLZ...

I'll just send private messages then.

I was only trying to suggest some tips to help somebody's map.

Finally, I recommend reading before posting your comment of my quotations. To me, it shows you don't care or have a difficult time understand somebody's view of Star Wars.

Jedi_Trooper · Post by **Jedi_Trooper** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:38 pm

whats wrong with having 10-20 droidekas? there might be abit of balance issues but an easy way of fixing it would be too put some more vehicles for the republic.
such as more AT-XTs (the big ATST kinda things i might be getting mixed up with the smaller walker) along the bottom highways and maybe some more IFT-X things on the top highway. if you ask me that balances it quite well with the CIS having more than 2 droidekas. it would also make for a much more epic battle.

geoman777 · Post by **geoman777** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:00 pm

maxloef wrote:Droideka 88 i think i speak for EVERYONe here when i say STFU about those [word not allowed] droidekas

Gunjak wrote:Ya same, he shut up on my thread either whats wrong with him?

MajinRevan wrote:
Droideka88 wrote:intented

Nice new word there. Maybe you meant intended?

- Majin Revan

Wadi wrote:ROTS IS ONLY A MOVIE, DROIDEKA88!

Okay, I know the constant requesting of droidekas is annoying, but I mean, you guys are really being a holes about it. Come on. He has his right to have an opinion. All the quotes above are pretty low things to say. If you were really that mad about it, then you should be pming an admin and talking to them instead of dissing him on the forums. He hasnt been banned yet so I guess the admins do not want to. He hasn't even gotten a warning yet. Maybe if he gets banned he will deserve it, but until then, you guys should show a little respect.

*prepares to be flamed for defense of droideka88*

JabbaLovesLava · Post by **JabbaLovesLava** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:41 pm

Well, I don't think he should be attacked but come on... all he says is that droidekas are not represented correctly. And you keep saying the george Lucas didn't have time to animate droidekas. That's a brutal lie. If he had wanted more droidekas he would have hired a person to make droideka animations for three years. I think droidekas shoulnt be more than 5% of maps. SBD 10-15 % magna guard 5 % and BD (sniper, rocketeer, engineer etc 80 %..) This map looks good so far... will download when final is released.

Alpha_522 · Post by **Alpha_522** » Sat May 27, 2006 3:25 am

awesome MAP! remembered thsi from the movie

Wadi · Post by **Wadi** » Sat May 27, 2006 7:34 am

geoman777 wrote:
Wadi wrote:ROTS IS ONLY A MOVIE, DROIDEKA88!
Okay, I know the constant requesting of droidekas is annoying, but I mean, you guys are really being a holes about it. Come on. He has his right to have an opinion. All the quotes above are pretty low things to say. If you were really that mad about it, then you should be pming an admin and talking to them instead of dissing him on the forums. He hasnt been banned yet so I guess the admins do not want to. He hasn't even gotten a warning yet. Maybe if he gets banned he will deserve it, but until then, you guys should show a little respect.

*prepares to be flamed for defense of droideka88*

My quote wasn't low!

Besides, the thing is we don't say all this in response to one post...he'll make one annoying post, then we'll respond, then he'll respond BACK (often repeating himself by restating ponits we've alreasy disproven) and so we'll have to respond again...that's feedback for a number of posts.

yankeefan05 · Post by **yankeefan05** » Sat May 27, 2006 8:30 am

If u love droidekas so much, y dont u make your own Droideka favored map.

valiant · Post by **valiant** » Sat May 27, 2006 8:51 am

He probably will lol.

Squirrel: I can't find any Republic vehicles in this map. I looked, but they aren't there. Are you sure you gave us everything?

Wadi · Post by **Wadi** » Sat May 27, 2006 10:34 am

I can find them fine, the first CP the republic start at is full of vehicles.

Squirrel7Hunter · Post by **Squirrel7Hunter** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:08 pm

Ok this is enough. I really dont want to see another post about droidikas from anyone on this thread. My intension for v 1.5 was to have 10 droidikas on the map and thats how many there are going to be in my next version. I have lowered the number of units on each team so actually I might have 7 droidikas, Im not usre yet.

REply to Valiant: there are no vehicles for the rep or cis in 2 flag ctf or 1 ctf , but there are in the conquest.

Wadi · Post by **Wadi** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:24 pm

If 10 down to 7 Droidekas is refelctive of the downscaling of the whole side, that seems about right to me.