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Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:42 pm
by MasterSaitek009
I'm planning to upgrade every part on my current 2-year old machine except for the hard drive the DVD/CD drive and the case.
Here's my current setup:
  • Processor: 2.14Ghz Celeron D OC to 2.40Ghz
    Memory: 1.5 GB DDR3200
    Hard Drive: 200GB IDE Maxtor
    Video Card: ATI Radeon 9200SE
    Monitor: 17in LCD
    Operating System: Dual Boot XP Pro and Vista Home Premium
I'm planning the upgrade around these parts: That system should run almost any game out there. But it comes with a price tag, altogether the upgrades will cost around $525.
Are there better parts I could get without going over $600?
Could you suggest Better parts?

Anyways let me know what you think.

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:30 pm
by {501st}Commander_Appo
Wow those computers upgrades looks awsome MasterSaitek :D

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:41 am
by -_-
Duo Core > Athlon

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:16 am
by Penguin
-_- wrote:Duo Core > Athlon
Any more need to be said?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:32 am
by ShadowHawk
Agree. Stay away from Celeron if you want a performance machine. They are more geared to the regular desktop market. Basically they are an under clocked and under cached Pentium. Duo core is the way to go. Love mine even though it is an Intel. (I prefer AMD, but it came with the HTPC.)

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:07 am
by computergeek
LONG LIVE DUO CORE!

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:59 am
by Penguin
Don't post in all caps.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:28 am
by computergeek
Sorry

Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:47 pm
by Razorpig
MasterSaitek009 wrote:I'm planning to upgrade every part on my current 2-year old machine except for the hard drive the DVD/CD drive and the case.
Here's my current setup:
  • Processor: 2.14Ghz Celeron D OC to 2.40Ghz
    Memory: 1.5 GB DDR3200
    Hard Drive: 200GB IDE Maxtor
    Video Card: ATI Radeon 9200SE
    Monitor: 17in LCD
    Operating System: Dual Boot XP Pro and Vista Home Premium
I'm planning the upgrade around these parts: That system should run almost any game out there. But it comes with a price tag, altogether the upgrades will cost around $525.
Are there better parts I could get without going over $600?
Could you suggest Better parts?

Anyways let me know what you think.
Replace the motherboard with this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... CatId=1533

and the CPU with this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... CatId=2396

Seeing as you are obviously comfortable with overclocking, these Intel Core 2 Duo's overclock like banshees.. And for the price/performance ratio, they will SLAY the AMD FX62... Check them out.. Everything else you have listed should work with this combination, so you don't need to swap them out, but definitely look into the Intel Core 2 Duo line of chips... If you spend just a little more, you can get this : http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... CatId=2758

and just go QUAD Core.. Nothing out right now takes full advantage of it, but the games that are coming out soon will (Crysis, Unreal 3, Hellgate London etc..) For $289.99 for a quad core, you really can't go wrong.. You may as well future proof yourself now while the getting is cheap.

The only other thing that I don't like (AT ALL) is your choice in power supply. Go with something from a reputable name. It may cost you more money, but when it comes to power supplies, you ALWAYS get what you pay for. I would suggest looking at these manufacturers: Enermax, Antec, Fortron/FSP, Coolermaster, Thermaltake, Silverstone, Ultra, and OCZ. They all make excellent power supplies, and have really good reviews. Also, I would look at something with a little more juice (probably in the 650-750 watt range), just in case you decide to upgrade to a better video card later, or decide that you want to overclock. You'll need the extra power, not to mention the fact that these power supplies will supply cleaner power, with much tighter voltage regulation with less ripple.

I've done the "cheap" power supply before, and I have unfortunately paid for it with a fried video card and RAM. It's worthwhile to spend the extra money to get a decent one (and you really don't even have to spend THAT much to get a good one..) For $100 you can get an excellent power supply if you look around. Tigerdirect has excellent forums, and some really good expert advice from people who specialize in power supplies. Do your homework..

RE: Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:58 pm
by Caleb1117
Wow, looks nice.
I'm planning on getting a Acer 19" Flatscreen LCD Monitor sometime soon.
Also, Tiger Direct FTW ;)

RE: Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:38 am
by crazytieguy
I agree, Newegg's a bit expensive. Also, if you *really* want to make the system even better, double the memory..1 gig is gonna be a bit low in the next couple years.

Also, try other sites like Buy.com, TigerDirect.com, and ZipZoomFly.com to make sure you get the best deal, if price really matters.

Other than that, good choices.

RE: Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:35 am
by swbf_lase
I'm going to ban all of you for saying that duo core is better then AMD

@Crazytieguy: What?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!!! YOU THINK NEWEGG IS EXPENSVIE???? DANG! THATS THE CHEAPEST YOU WILL EVER FIND PC PARTS! :P


EDIT: Haha, look at my upgrades :P

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black PATA Model SH-202G/BEBN - OEM
GIGABYTE GA-M61P-S3 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADO4600CUBOX - Retail
Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
XFX PV-T86J-UAHG GeForce 8500GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail
Rosewill RP500-2 500W,ATX12V v2.01 Power Supply - Retail
WINTEC AMPX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 3AXT6400C5-2048K - Retail

lol, $631 at newegg, best deal around? YES fastest shipping? YES free eggs? NO :(

RE: Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:47 am
by -_-
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADO4600CUBOX - Retail
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RE: Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:06 am
by swbf_lase
Ya, test results can lie...

Re: RE: Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:45 am
by Razorpig
swbf_lase wrote:Ya, test results can lie...
In this case however they don't... AMD was THE chip to have a year and a half ago, but as of last September when the Intel Core2Duo's came out, AMD has been clobbered in the price - performance ratio. Intel has learned from their mistakes in the past, and are producing FASTER chips for less money than the "equivalent" AMD chip. Look around at ANY hardware site. I challenge you to find even ONE review that says that AMD's last bunch of chips can hold a candle to Intel's.

Personally, I am an avid AMD fan, but even I can't deny the fact that Intel has been putting out superior product for the last year. If you are truly a fanboy, and want to stick with AMD, you'd be better off waiting until their next batch of chips comes out based on the Barcelona core. They're supposed to be a much better chip that is supposed to compare more readily to their Intel counterparts by running cooler, and having better overclocking capabilities. But, as with anything, the hype machine has been in full gear about Barcelona for quite a while now, and Intel hasn't been just resting on their laurels - they too have been developing new tech to counter the supposed Barcelona threat.

As of now though, Intel wins hands down. If you don't believe it, then you must have been hiding in a cave for the past year. I have great hopes that AMD can "level" the playing field and come back out on top, but as of now they haven't yet, and everything coming out of their camp is just rumors and innuendo. I REALLY hope that with the AMD/ATI merger that happened last year that they are also able to make a GPU that performs better than their Nvidia rivals, as well as the CPU to out-do Intel...

Just a couple of more comments on your system build (not to nitpick or anything...) Why did you decide to go with Vista x64?? The driver support for 64 bit operating systems is HORRIBLE right now, as well as there are some MAJOR compatibility issues with it. Many antivirus programs won't work with it, and you will probably have some pretty glaring issues when it comes to games. You'd be better served with buying plain old Vista Premium 32 bit or Ultimate... Believe me, I know what I'm talking about here - I was on the original Beta test for Vista, and the driver support STILL isn't there for the 64bit version yet.

Also, as I said before - I'd be extremely leery of using a no-name power supply like the Rosewill.. For a few dollars more you could buy yourself something that is rock solid, like an Enermax, Thermaltake, Antec, OCZ, Ultra, Corsair, Silverstone, Fortron, etc etc. ALL of those power supplies are known to have rock solid reliability, with very little ripple or deviation on the various rails that supply power to your system. You truly "get what you pay for" when buying a power supply. And considering that your power supply is powering some High end equipment, why leave it to chance? Lastly, your RAM choice.. WINTEC.. Never heard of them. With the price of RAM being what it is nowadays, you could easily go with RAM from a company like OCZ, Corsair, Super Talent, Kingston, Buffalo, Team Extreem etc. RAM is CHEAP, and companies like OCZ offer a LIFETIME warranty on their Ram - this warranty extends to overclocking (provided you don't put too much power through them) If anything goes wrong, they'll ship you new RAM modules. Even if this worked out to an extra $20-$30, it's well worth it in my opinion for peace of mind.

If you've already ordered your parts, then good luck. If you haven't, then give some thought to what I've said here. There are some things that I personally would never skimp on (having had bad experiences in the past). RAM, and Power Supplies are both extremely important, and many people think that if they can save a few bucks on them that they can put that money somewhere else. You could do this, but I can almost guarantee that it will end up being a severe detriment to your system in the long run..

Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:33 pm
by MasterSaitek009
Nope I haven't upgraded yet. I decided I didn't need to..... yet......As in until like a week before November 16 :twisted:
Thanks for your ideas everyone I'll post back when I give all of your suggestions a good thinking over.

Re: RE: Re: Computer Upgrades!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:32 am
by crazytieguy
swbf_lase wrote:@Crazytieguy: What?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!!! YOU THINK NEWEGG IS EXPENSVIE???? DANG! THATS THE CHEAPEST YOU WILL EVER FIND PC PARTS! :P
Saw (almost) the exact same video card for about 10% more at NewEgg than TigerDirect..

NewEgg
TigerDirect

And there's no point in not shopping around...NewEgg won't always have the cheapest prices...

BTW, that graphics card there looks like a really good deal..I'm probably going to upgrade to it from my (get ready) INTEGRATED 128MB SHARED NVIDIA 6150 LE. There, I said it. :oops:

And yes, NewEgg will be considerably cheaper than retail stores, but there's no way it can be cheaper than every single other online store.

I just couldn't not reply to that..