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Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:08 am
by Twilight_Warrior
But if Vader's already dead than he's converted back to the Jedi and is once again Hayden Chr- I mean Anakin Skywalker...
Also the press release says the game will still be in between episodes 3 & 4.

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:10 am
by H_BOMB
So maybe it's not Vader's spirit, but Starkiller just flashbacking to stuff Vader said to him during his training.

Or maybe its a prequel... naw.

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:26 am
by Hebes24
Anyone have an idea about the Arena setting? (other than H-BOMB?, of course)

The trailer was really well done. The clip of Juno's voice was what gave it away to me, because that was a very powerful part of the game (and the book, if you read it).

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:34 am
by Blade
Hebes24 wrote:Anyone have an idea about the Arena setting? (other than H-BOMB?, of course)
Whoever wrote the Wookiepedia article for TFU2 at least thought it looked like Nar Shadaa, and I can see it, with the lighting and make up of what we see of the arena.

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:40 am
by H_BOMB
I'm thinking maybe Ord Mantell, actually. If I go with the "Starkiller resurrected by the Force idea" of mine.

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:42 am
by RED51
If the guy is star killer, then it's most likely a prequel. I can't think of anything else that would make sense or be reasonable.

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:48 am
by RogueKnight
RED51 wrote:If the guy is star killer, then it's most likely a prequel. I can't think of anything else that would make sense or be reasonable.
Nihillo wrote:
Nova Hawk wrote:I'm thinking the most likely explanation is that it's a clone. Because the Emperor did say he could be one of the greatest Sith that ever lived and so he could have taken some DNA from Starkiller and made a clone of him.
The way you put it, it actually sounds reasonable, I mean, the whole "he's a clone" plot device is old and stupid, but you would expect Palpatine to clone such an important asset to his plans for later use, besides, Palpy loved to use clones.

So, yes... <sighs deeply> he must be a clone.

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:46 am
by Lord Bardar
I still wonder why people seem to be questioning whether Galen Marek is really the person in the game or not, and how exactly he came to live again.

THINK FOR ONE SECOND

If it were a clone, I doubt the Emperor and Vader would let him drift off.

Let's think back to the end of TFU. As you can see, A) The Rebel Alliance is formed in honor of Marek's death B) Darth Vader is now going to hunt down the Rebels C) Galen Marek's corpse DOES NOT VANISH.

However, Kota states "He is at last one with the Force," which would imply that his corpse went poof, as do all Jedi corpses.

Image
That does not make sense!


So both the clone and reconstruction ideas are out the window. What now?

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 am
by Nova Hawk
Oh I know! They copied the events of PotC 3: At World's End and transformed it into Star Wars!

The hero (Starkiller) dies a heroic death and then gets united with the Force but then the Rebels are desperate and want him back and go to great lengths on how to find him! Even if it means going to Galaxy's End!

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:58 am
by Lord Bardar
lulz. hey where did you get that picture of mr. marek (your avatar)?

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:59 am
by Nova Hawk

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:44 am
by Lord Bardar
the trailer is now available on the site page.

http://www.lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed2/

attempting to download my own copy and thus upload to youtube.

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:50 am
by Teancum
You guys are thinking way too hard on this. If they've revealed the game, they've thought long and hard of how it fits into the universe. That's good enough for me. :mrgreen:

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:07 am
by CodaRez
Teancum wrote:You guys are thinking way too hard on this. If they've revealed the game, they've thought long and hard of how it fits into the universe. That's good enough for me. :mrgreen:
Somehow I can't resist detecting a massive amount of inconsistencies/anomalies from that little paragraph of urs Tean.

(it doesnt seem like you'd say that :funny2: excuse me if im wrong)

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:52 am
by giftheck
Lord Bardar wrote:I still wonder why people seem to be questioning whether Galen Marek is really the person in the game or not, and how exactly he came to live again.

THINK FOR ONE SECOND

If it were a clone, I doubt the Emperor and Vader would let him drift off.

Let's think back to the end of TFU. As you can see, A) The Rebel Alliance is formed in honor of Marek's death B) Darth Vader is now going to hunt down the Rebels C) Galen Marek's corpse DOES NOT VANISH.

However, Kota states "He is at last one with the Force," which would imply that his corpse went poof, as do all Jedi corpses.

Image
That does not make sense!


So both the clone and reconstruction ideas are out the window. What now?
No, reconstruction is not out of the window. Look a bit closer at the end cutscene of TFU. Marek's body is still there after dying. In the novel, it's still there, although he does have an out-of-body experience. Not all Jedi disappear upon death. In fact, so far, only Yoda, Obi-Wan, Anakin and Luke have done so. Even Qui-Gon, who found out about this art, did not disappear. "One with the Force" is just another way of saying "His soul has moved on". Which had supposedly happened before to Marek.

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:12 am
by Dohnutt
CodaRez wrote:
Teancum wrote:You guys are thinking way too hard on this. If they've revealed the game, they've thought long and hard of how it fits into the universe. That's good enough for me. :mrgreen:
Somehow I can't resist detecting a massive amount of inconsistencies/anomalies from that little paragraph of urs Tean.

(it doesnt seem like you'd say that :funny2: excuse me if im wrong)
You're wrong. He did just say that ;)

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:42 am
by CodaRez
Dohnutt wrote:
CodaRez wrote:
Teancum wrote:You guys are thinking way too hard on this. If they've revealed the game, they've thought long and hard of how it fits into the universe. That's good enough for me. :mrgreen:
Somehow I can't resist detecting a massive amount of inconsistencies/anomalies from that little paragraph of urs Tean.

(it doesnt seem like you'd say that :funny2: excuse me if im wrong)
You're wrong. He did just say that ;)

Well suppose that in a certain topic in a certain forum someone says Starkiller is alive.

He did just say it

But it is inconsistent, anomalous, and made that forum quite outraged because it wasn't a TFU modding forum at all.

And we were pretty surprised by it in the end, no? :wink:

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:40 am
by Darth_Spiderpig
CodaRez wrote: And we were pretty surprised by it in the end, no? :wink:
Positive.

I do really like the trailer.
When he goes through the hallway, everything breaks down behind him, and he is twisted between the jedi and the sith teachings.
Then suddenly the voice of Juno pops up in his mind, and he calms down immediately. That's a strong motif, I think.

Love.

I am looking forward to this game, besides all the open questions now :P

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:20 pm
by DarthD.U.C.K.
the first half of the trailer is nice, but the second is just meh..

Re: The Official VGA Thread, TFU2, Reach, and more!

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:45 pm
by lesovikk1
Im changing my view. Im going to welcome theforceunleashed2. As i enjoyed the first game on the wii. I just have a feeling this is going to be a assasins creed. I just have a feeling. Who else notices Starkiller and the assasins creed look alike?