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About the "Mandolorian mess"

About this, This is georges sandbox, everything having to do with the mandos was writtin by eu writers. He sat down, and sid, ok, this is what the mandlorians are to me. bI like his mandolorians.

But if obi IS talking to quigon that means he doesnt even care about his own cannon anymore.

Once again, just wait for tonight. Given the past it's clear the producers want you to get thrown off and riled up only to realize it's not what you thought.

Just remember, the folks who make this are Star Wars nuts too.

Twilight_Warrior wrote:After the Mandolorian mess, I don't trust them to respect what was once thought as true.

What mess?

Twilight_Warrior wrote:I'm sorry, call me OCD, but until this series every EU writer respected each other's fiction.

Say what?

Twilight_Warrior wrote:There weren't any conflicting plotlines (aside from Infinities, but those were written with the purpose of being conflicting), even if the stories weren't all that great. You're not going to change my mind on this.

So, you prefer to believe in a lie rather than accept the truth. Saying that there was no conflicting plotlines before TCW is not true.

Twilight_Warrior wrote:I'm pretty sure that's a definite "Whoever is pictured in the crystal ball knows alot about the Dark Side and is very much alive.". So you're right, it may not be Darth Maul. They might have made a totally new Iridonian with Sith tatoos who used to be a Sith. Way to be original.

I don't recall saying that it wasn't Darth Maul. It is, and it has been confirmed. What we don't know is if he's alive or dead. How can you complain about something you don't know?

Twilight_Warrior wrote:One statement saying, "No, we didn't screw over any pre-existing canon, so stop worrying, you silly fanboys, just wait until the episode airs to see how clever we are," would set aside any doubts. However, no such statement has been made, so us silly fanboys worry.

There is no statement saying, "Yes, we screw up over canon, so start worrying." either.

Teancum wrote:Once again, just wait for tonight. Given the past it's clear the producers want you to get thrown off and riled up only to realize it's not what you thought.

Just remember, the folks who make this are Star Wars nuts too.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm not sure what to make of last night's episode. It was all so strange.

EraOfDesann wrote:I'm not sure what to make of last night's episode. It was all so strange.

I'm with you there. I guess we can assume that Obi-Wan dismissed Qui-Gon as either a figment of the imagination or a hallucination by the "others", whatever they're called.

Yeah, I agree with you there, but Qui Gon could also be one of these "dreams" Ahsoka and Anakin had, but both Ani's and Ahsoka's weren't slightly transparent and glowing, so...

Anyway, I really liked the ending, especially the moment where the imperial march was played, considering the circumstances of the "planet's" nature and it's inhabitors.

Darth_Spiderpig wrote:Yeah, I agree with you there, but Qui Gon could also be one of these "dreams" Ahsoka and Anakin had, but both Ani's and Ahsoka's weren't slightly transparent and glowing, so...

Anyway, I really liked the ending, especially the moment where the imperial march was played, considering the circumstances of the "planet's" nature and it's inhabitors.

Huh. Didn't catch the march part. When was that, when they took off?

GangsterJawa wrote:

Darth_Spiderpig wrote:Yeah, I agree with you there, but Qui Gon could also be one of these "dreams" Ahsoka and Anakin had, but both Ani's and Ahsoka's weren't slightly transparent and glowing, so...

Anyway, I really liked the ending, especially the moment where the imperial march was played, considering the circumstances of the "planet's" nature and it's inhabitors.

Huh. Didn't catch the march part. When was that, when they took off?

Yep, slightly after it actually

One thing I do like about the episode is that it hearkens back to the Force having mythilogical origins rather than scientific (midichlorians). Also the idea of giving the Dark and Light side of the Force physical manifestations is interesting.

EraOfDesann wrote:Also the idea of giving the Dark and Light side of the Force physical manifestations is interesting.

Aye.
Does anyone else think that the Dark Side manifestation looks like Starkiller?

Darth_Spiderpig wrote:Yeah, I agree with you there, but Qui Gon could also be one of these "dreams" Ahsoka and Anakin had, but both Ani's and Ahsoka's weren't slightly transparent and glowing, so...

Anyway, I really liked the ending, especially the moment where the imperial march was played, considering the circumstances of the "planet's" nature and it's inhabitors.

Yeah, I didn't hear any Imperial March theme... maybe I should watch it again.

Overall, I thought the episode was pretty good. As Era said, I liked how they actually gave the Light and Dark side of the Force actual living things too.

Darth_Spiderpig wrote: Does anyone else think that the Dark Side manifestation looks like Starkiller?

http://starwars.com/theclonewars/mortis ... index.html



I haven't seen the episode yet, but from the previews/commentary/article above it sounds really interesting. I'll definitely be watching it as soon as it's available on the web.

Eggman wrote:

Darth_Spiderpig wrote: Does anyone else think that the Dark Side manifestation looks like Starkiller?

http://starwars.com/theclonewars/mortis ... index.html

Yay, I was right then.
No, I didn't know about that article before I wrote that comment.

I just had a chance to watch the latest episode, and I was really impressed. The show's producers took a bold step by venturing into the mythical side of Star Wars, but it really worked. I think this little story arc is a really important part of Anakin's character development that had largely been brushed aside - Anakin's role as the Chosen One, despite its importance, has never received the attention it should, even in the films.

Edit:

I too just watched the new episode, and whoa.

This is the coolest thing. It actually has all the cool, even though cool isn't a quantifiable thing.

Yeah, I just loved it, especially becasue they desided to do something new. Not just rehashing some old characters or something, but something actually meaningful to character development. It makes Ep. III look like a massive wasted opprotunity, but that doesn't take away from how well they managed this episode. It also helped that the Daughter was sort of prissy, while the Son wasn't cut and paste dark side evil.

Was it just me, or did Anakin's dialogue seem less "stilted boring hero" and more "guy in weird situation" in this episode?

Eggman wrote:

Hidden/Spoiler:

As for Qui-Gon, I think he was a legitimate Force ghost. You may have noticed that all three visions (Qui-Gon, Shmi, adult Ahsoka) were slightly different - Qui-Gon looked like a Force ghost, while Shmi was a solid figure and Ahsoka was transluscent, but without the glow of a Force ghost. I think this is a reflection of the different nature of each image - Shmi was an image projected by the dark side brother, Ahsoka was a vision from the future, and Qui-Gon was the real deal, although Obi-Wan dismissed him as a simple vision.

I liked to look at each one as simply visions portrayed in a way that would be most comfortable to the perceiver. Obi-Wan's clearly closest to Qui-Gon, his teacher, and since Qui-Gon's dead, it makes sense for him to look like some kind of apparition. Ashoka might be close to many people, but Anakin's not dead or missing (so having him appear as a vision wouldn't highlight the "vision" quality of it), and anyone else in Ashoka's life hasn't been introduced to the viewer (so seeing her parents or someone else close to her - if there is such a person - would be confusing). So instead we see Ashoka herself, but again in a form that makes it clear that it's a vision (since it pops up out of a fire and all).

Anakin's is obviously different, but it's clear that his wasn't necessarily a vision - it was just the Dark Side brother trying to get to him.

My dad and I loved the last episode. The whole idea was cool. As for qui, Mav may be right, but think of another possibility.
My dad said , maybe obi-wan will think he could only see him because the planet (Which I think might be Zonoma Sekot) Is like the border betwqeen this world and the next. So maybew qui can talk to him because of his location.

But mav is probably right....

Hmm... never thought of that. I remember reading in one of the Yuuzhan Vong books that it said Anakin & Obi Wan traveled to Zonama Zekot once (and of course no reference to Ashoka coming along with them), maybe this last episode is a reference to it.

Interesting thought, indeed.

The world is called "Mortis"

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/?video=v001217#vid

Scroll down, click on the "Clone Card" the farthest left

Maveritchell wrote:Anakin's is obviously different, but it's clear that his wasn't necessarily a vision - it was just the Dark Side brother trying to get to him.

Aside from this, I didn't saw the visions the way you did. I think Ahsoka's vision was the Daughter, since she warned him about Anakin's dark future. And Qui-Gon was probably the real Qui-Gon, since he told the truth to Obi-Wan about that place.