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Annoyed at hackers on my friend's SWBF2 server
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:41 pm
by Dakota
ok so every once in awhile a hacker goes on my friend's server and takes the entire server over with some hack. anyone know how to stop it from working or counter it. i think it would help me.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:42 pm
by Twilight_Warrior
A description of exactly what happens might be helpful.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:41 pm
by Dakota
well the hacker joins then he uses some unknown code or program then he is the host with full host control. i think it is some port forwarding or something like that (not really sure)
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:21 am
by [RDH]Zerted
A password on the server blocks just about all the hacks, assuming the hacker doesn't know the password.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:36 am
by agentsmith38
Wow, seems like a pretty bad hack. Zerted is right, you could password it or you could include in some custom maps that both you and your friend has, i doubt he'd have the custom maps you put in it.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:27 am
by Teancum
You can also block individual players (and their IPs I think) using the server manager.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:06 am
by agentsmith38
Teancum wrote:You can also block individual players (and their IPs I think) using the server manager.
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:21 pm
by Dakota
Teancum wrote:You can also block individual players (and their IPs I think) using the server manager.
it isn't dedicated and i have an admin pw but if i add a pw on the server then none of my friends will know it. it isn't really me having a problem it is my friends i am the best anti hacker online but my friends keep getting their server crashed...
also with passwords i think that the hackers have something to hack a pw maybe but just a guess.
(it isn't just a guy it is a hacker clan named +HR+)
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:12 pm
by fasty
Just try: /admin /ban 2
Replace 2 with his number.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:23 pm
by Dakota
fasty wrote:Just try: /admin /ban 2
Replace 2 with his number.
once again its not dedicated ban only works on dedicated (trust me i tested it)
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:31 pm
by fasty
I tested it this morning. It works on non-dedicateds. Go try it...
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:54 pm
by Dakota
fasty wrote:I tested it this morning. It works on non-dedicateds. Go try it...
it doesn't work the person just thought he was booted and stoped joining back it is quencidence i have tested it already like a 100 times...
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:14 am
by Twilight_Warrior
Dakota wrote:fasty wrote:I tested it this morning. It works on non-dedicateds. Go try it...
it doesn't work the person just thought he was booted and stoped joining back it is quencidence i have tested it already like a 100 times...
It works if you're the creator of the server. Or if you have the admin password.
If you created the non-dedicated server:
If you did not create the non-dedicated server:
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:46 pm
by Dakota
Twilight_Warrior wrote:Dakota wrote:fasty wrote:I tested it this morning. It works on non-dedicateds. Go try it...
it doesn't work the person just thought he was booted and stoped joining back it is quencidence i have tested it already like a 100 times...
It works if you're the creator of the server. Or if you have the admin password.
If you created the non-dedicated server:
If you did not create the non-dedicated server:
wow i said thats what i did at least 3 times and that is exactly what i did. i taught the admin clan the codes. i have learned every single code and tested most of them. the ban code does not work what so ever even doing those steps. if it works for you then u are lucky. the thing is that it needs the IP address to ban someone so there is no possible way to ban on a non dedicated server.
please stop telling me to "ban them" i tested before and it annoys me that everytime i make a server there is always some guy shouting "BAN HIM BAN HIM". so really it DOES NOT WORK. also if the person hacks first and takes over the server then you can't ban them because it makes them the host. (as in the original host can leave and the server will stay up so admin won't help unless you boot them before they reveal the hack)
(on an unrelated note): i was just wondering is there a way to block someone from forwarding their port because that is what the hackers do to steal the servers.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:08 am
by Twilight_Warrior
1) You mentioned this, but I don't think you fully understand it. The only thing you can't do through ingame admin codes is IP ban, and even that is totally different than kicking them off the server.
I suppose the proper word for a non-IP ban is "kick," but the admin code is /ban. The admin code (/admin /ban #) boots them off the server while an IP ban prevents them from ever joining. So if the "hacker" is already in your server, the admin codes WILL work to kick him off
if used correctly. If the ban code "does not work," you're doing it wrong. It's that simple. I've used it, I'll bet fasty's used it, I almost guaruntee Zerted's done it, and almost any number of SWBF2 veterans have used it with success.
2) You claim you can't ban him cuz he's the host. But you can ban a host. Try it. Make your own server and before ANYONE joins, type "/admin /ban 1" into the chat.
3) You can't "steal" a server. It's impossible. Not through the game, anyway. The only way the "hacker" would be able to theoretically do anything to control the server is if he had total control of the computer, not just the game. And if a hacker has control of someone's computer, I
highly doubt they're going to waste time screwing around with your Star Wars: Battlefront II server.
4) Port forwarding only works on a local area network. Plus, a port is not the entire IP address, only the numbers after the colon. And port forwarding is only telling the computer what port on what computer on the same network to send data to. Allow me to repeat
computer on the same LAN http://portforward.com/help/portforwarding.htm
If you were to really "rob" a server (assuming it's possible on a local area network), you would need to have the same core IP address. Otherwise everyone would lose connection when the IP address switched, because no one would be connected to that IP. It would be like the first host quit the server, and the new host started his own with no one in it. Of course, this is all assuming it's possible in the first place to do that.
I think that there's something going on that you don't know about. You say it's your friend's server, so it's possible that he is not typing in the proper commands to set up an admin password (which is NOT the same as the server password). Or it's possible your friend is playing you guys and he and his buddy are pretending that the server is getting "hacked" to freak everyone out.
But honestly, (and correct me if I'm wrong guys) this is the first time in 5 years I've heard of any SWBF2 servers being legitimately "hacked." I haven't even heard of someone using a successful aimbot in this game. I don't actually think it's possible to "hack" SWBF2.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:44 pm
by Dakota
if it is just kicking them off the server ban does work. i thought u guys where talking about ban like the dedicated time. if it is just kicking them i just type /admin /boot #
but it really it is a true hack. as i said in some other post the community in game is pretty bad off of the dedicated servers. this hack only happened twice. one was on my friends server and he got hacked by this guy who doesn't like him. my friend tryed all types of admin commands and yet it did nothing at all. also the guy was able to use the FC while on the server because his health was super high and that can only be don't in game with FC's lua code consle. eventually the guy left after 30 minutes or so and never returned. the second time i was on a different friend's server and some one did the same hack and instead of using the FC thing he used admin used /admin /shutdown. we couldn't boot or ban or swap or even use admin on any of them or even use the admin at all after they hacked. what ever this thing is it is bad and it is new.
i feel like a guy who saw aliens and no one will believe him... there are always a whole bunch of people saying there is no way to hack but i have seen it happen.
(off topic sorta): there is a lesser hack thing which is a spam hack it is a program called WPE pro it is used by a whole bunch of hackers who come on servers then spam so the admin can't see the player numbers when typing /admin /players but the hack stops when they leave so it isn't too dangerous.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:31 pm
by Teancum
I would definitely password protect your servers with a common password only you and your friends know if you're not going dedicated.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:17 pm
by Dakota
Teancum wrote:I would definitely password protect your servers with a common password only you and your friends know if you're not going dedicated.
well the fact is what happens is that my friends have a clan and the clan that are hackers don't like them so every time my friends seem to do recruitings for there clan a hacker shows up. but i think that i could eventually get a password in place. or maybe figure out the inner workings of making my dedicated server better (already got a sniper and a duel one that rock

)
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:55 pm
by [RDH]Zerted
I've recently been brought up to speed with most of the hacking going around online right now. There's work progressing on a patched server exe that will stop most of the hacks. The people working on it (not me) are trying to contact LA to get permission to distribute the patched exe.
I haven't heard of someone stealing a server before. I know a host can be booted from their own game, but if the host closes swbf2 the server should shutdown. I don't think swbf2 is advanced enough to automatically transfer the server to another computer, but I haven't extensively tested it.
A hacker can gain admin rights and do anything an admin could do.
I've almost never used the /admin controls. I made a nice button that lets you boot someone without typing anything in, but that's all I've ever needed.
Re: annoyed at hackers
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:46 pm
by Dakota
[RDH]Zerted wrote:I've almost never used the /admin controls. I made a nice button that lets you boot someone without typing anything in, but that's all I've ever needed.
the only problem is that sometimes the boot button doesn't seem to work

and the play menu can't read no names. (well that was off topic)