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Leo the Larg wrote:Helicopter anyone?

And how is this a weapon?

its a weapon holder

Exactly. It would probably be more useful on a map, rather than in space (lol). You could transport troops in it. It would also have a rocket function, driver machine gun, and a turret or 2 on the sides. Sort of like an LAAT.

Sounds neat.

offtopic: leo, have you checked you pm's?

ok

I have a weapon idea, what if you make a gun that fires an emp lazer (like the one that the la-at side turrets fire) so you walk up with a gun and fire - then tank is disabled.

Leo the Larg wrote:Exactly. It would probably be more useful on a map, rather than in space (lol). You could transport troops in it. It would also have a rocket function, driver machine gun, and a turret or 2 on the sides. Sort of like an LAAT.

Can we please keep it narrowed down to straightforward weaponry? I don't want admins deciding that this is just a cloned request thread or whatnot. I started it with the idea of modders discussing various ways that unconventional weapons could or could not be made, and now we just have people popping in with vehicles and conventional weapons ("How 'bout this? *insert random pic*).

501st_commander wrote:I have a weapon idea, what if you make a gun that fires an emp lazer (like the one that the la-at side turrets fire) so you walk up with a gun and fire - then tank is disabled.

A laser to force someone out of a vehicle? Not bad; but it'd have to be either really hard to use or on a map full of strange things like that, like a Boeing production or something. To stop people from laying down a spray of fire and keeping the vehicles of the map effectively locked down.

Fiodis wrote:

501st_commander wrote:I have a weapon idea, what if you make a gun that fires an emp lazer (like the one that the la-at side turrets fire) so you walk up with a gun and fire - then tank is disabled.

A laser to force someone out of a vehicle? Not bad; but it'd have to be either really hard to use or on a map full of strange things like that, like a Boeing production or something. To stop people from laying down a spray of fire and keeping the vehicles of the map effectively locked down.

You mean like slicing a vehicle? You could take that fusion cutter ability and put it on a long-range weapon instead. Same thing, but all the code is already there, plus added difficulty of use.

Twilight_Warrior wrote:

Fiodis wrote:

501st_commander wrote:I have a weapon idea, what if you make a gun that fires an emp lazer (like the one that the la-at side turrets fire) so you walk up with a gun and fire - then tank is disabled.

A laser to force someone out of a vehicle? Not bad; but it'd have to be either really hard to use or on a map full of strange things like that, like a Boeing production or something. To stop people from laying down a spray of fire and keeping the vehicles of the map effectively locked down.

You mean like slicing a vehicle? You could take that fusion cutter ability and put it on a long-range weapon instead. Same thing, but all the code is already there, plus added difficulty of use.

no, like a emp grenade but as a laser.

Well I'm saying, when you slice a vehicle all the way, sparks fly out of it for 3 seconds, the players are forced out, and they can't get back in for a while.

Here's what I'm seeing:
Put this ability on a gun with, oh I don't know, a rifle that shoots the IFT-X beam effect. Or the default Beam rifle effect. When you hold the mouse button, a very transparent version comes out of the rifle and if you keep the vehicle in your line of fire, the beam constatly gets moer opaque. When the "slice" reaches 100%, the beam is fully charged. Then, the beam stops and the vehicle is sliced, sparking, and the units are forced out for a short time.

That's just what I had in mind when I read your post. It might not be as visually appealing if someone actually makes it, but hey, my imagination is on the fritz.

Twilight_Warrior wrote:Most likely not possible...

I know its possible, I've done something similar in effect before, and the stock mine is a key example of this.

Twilight_Warrior wrote:Well I'm saying, when you slice a vehicle all the way, sparks fly out of it for 3 seconds, the players are forced out, and they can't get back in for a while.

Here's what I'm seeing:
Put this ability on a gun with, oh I don't know, a rifle that shoots the IFT-X beam effect. Or the default Beam rifle effect. When you hold the mouse button, a very transparent version comes out of the rifle and if you keep the vehicle in your line of fire, the beam constatly gets moer opaque. When the "slice" reaches 100%, the beam is fully charged. Then, the beam stops and the vehicle is sliced, sparking, and the units are forced out for a short time.

That's just what I had in mind when I read your post. It might not be as visually appealing if someone actually makes it, but hey, my imagination is on the fritz.

Except....you can't just add properties from one weapon type to another like that.

Hmmmm...that IS a problem...
Well, you could change the fusion cutter to make it look like a gun, then extend the range of the weapon via LUA, but then you still have the heal-vehicle effect...hmmmmm...
Oh well, it's an interesting idea to say the least...

How about invisible grenades or invisible stun grenades, they will be like the bothan spy but like grenades...

Grenades with a transparent mesh?

Yes, or could you make it like the bothan with a glass like effect. the only time you would see the grenade would be when it explodes. The AI would still run away I think even if the mesh is invisible.

EA711 wrote:How about invisible grenades or invisible stun grenades, they will be like the bothan spy but like grenades...

comment out the geometry line

MileHighGuy wrote:

EA711 wrote:How about invisible grenades or invisible stun grenades, they will be like the bothan spy but like grenades...

comment out the geometry line

A grenade without any sort of geometry? Fairly sure you've got a CTD right there.

EA711 wrote:Yes, or could you make it like the bothan with a glass like effect. the only time you would see the grenade would be when it explodes. The AI would still run away I think even if the mesh is invisible.

Give a grenade a stealth field? The Bothan's stealth field? Utterly impossible. That is a weapon. Grenades do not have or use weapons.

Unfortunately, I do not believe there is a way around the AI-dodge reflex.

Fiodis wrote:

MileHighGuy wrote:

EA711 wrote:How about invisible grenades or invisible stun grenades, they will be like the bothan spy but like grenades...

comment out the geometry line

A grenade without any sort of geometry? Fairly sure you've got a CTD right there.

Umm...no.

Skyhammer_216 wrote:

Fiodis wrote:

MileHighGuy wrote:

EA711 wrote:How about invisible grenades or invisible stun grenades, they will be like the bothan spy but like grenades...

comment out the geometry line

A grenade without any sort of geometry? Fairly sure you've got a CTD right there.

Umm...no.

ive done it in swbf1 before and it worked fine